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Homebrewing: It's more fun than work

Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:31 am
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:31 am
I am researching a little to build a recipe for a black IPA, and came across a recipe that said to dry hop with 2 oz of hops for 3 days, remove them, then dry hop with 2 more for 4 days

Why remove them, why not just add 2 more?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:40 am to
Don't know why you would remove them. And 3 days isn't enough time IMO. 5 days would be better. then add the second round and let sit for another 5 days.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:47 am to
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Don't know why you would remove them. And 3 days isn't enough time IMO. 5 days would be better. then add the second round and let sit for another 5 days.



At what temperature?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 11:59 am to
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At what temperature?


68 to 75...
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:25 pm to
In my Ipa book, when they list the Pliny the elder recipe that method of dry hop is used. Claims that Vinny thinks it produces better aroma and flavor with short contact times
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:28 pm to
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Don't know why you would remove them. And 3 days isn't enough time IMO. 5 days would be better. then add the second round and let sit for another 5 days.


that's what I was thinking too
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:29 pm to
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In my Ipa book, when they list the Pliny the elder recipe that method of dry hop is used. Claims that Vinny thinks it produces better aroma and flavor with short contact times


I got this from a Wookey Jack clone where the guy making it emailed and worked on it with a guy from Firestone Walker
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Claims that Vinny thinks it produces better aroma and flavor with short contact times



Not in my experience. I've tried his method. After 3 days I was not getting much aroma. After 5 it was more pronounced. Maybe at a large scale the aroma comes out faster. I should add I use pellets most the time for dry hopping. I will use cones if they are available but often they are not.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:53 pm to
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I got this from a Wookey Jack clone where the guy making it emailed and worked on it with a guy from Firestone Walker


Hmm, maybe I got the two confused.

Let me point out that I let it go for 5-7 days. So I was just passing that info (albeit mis-credited) along.
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LSUGrad00
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Let me point out that I let it go for 5-7 days.


same here, I typically dry hop 5-7 days @ between 67-69F.

Here is an interesting article by Vinnie Cilurzo that was in Zymurgy a few years back. I think this was right after Russian River opened their new brewery, so he may have changes his processes since then.

LINK
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:11 pm to
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Here is an interesting article by Vinnie Cilurzo that was in Zymurgy a few years back. I think this was right after Russian River opened their new brewery, so he may have changes his processes since then.

LINK



Thanks for that link. We will be brewing a Pliny kit in a few weeks and it's good to see what he has to say about it.

Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:36 pm to
I know this has been covered before, but do you guys typically dry hop in a hop bag or just toss the pellets/cones in then cold crash before bottling/kegging?

I've been doing the hop bags, but am considering the just-toss-em-in method for my Citra IPA that's ready for the dry hopping tonight or tomorrow.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:49 pm to
I just throw my hops in. No concerns about sanitizing a bag or anything.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:08 pm to
I usually sanitize a bag and bag the hops.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:17 pm to
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I usually sanitize a bag and bag the hops.


This is what I do too. But I can totally see just throwing the hops in and crashing before siphoning.

Anyone ever have issues with hop matter making it into the keg?
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:34 pm to
I just throw mine in, usually in a hop sock...no more than one oz to a sock. Whole cones i put directly in with no bag as my throat on the glass carboy is narrow.
Posted by BMoney
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:55 pm to
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This is what I do too. But I can totally see just throwing the hops in and crashing before siphoning.

Anyone ever have issues with hop matter making it into the keg?


Thinking I'll just put a mesh bag on the filter before siphoning to the keg if I do chunk the hops directly in.
Posted by Fratastic423
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:57 pm to
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Anyone ever have issues with hop matter making it into the keg?


I never seem to have an issue.
Posted by s14suspense
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:11 pm to
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Thinking I'll just put a mesh bag on the filter before siphoning to the keg if I do chunk the hops directly in.


That's what I do. Just curious if everyone else did that too.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 4:06 pm to
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Thinking I'll just put a mesh bag on the filter before siphoning to the keg if I do chunk the hops directly in.


I know others do this but I had hell keeping the siphon going with a bag on it
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