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Posted on 4/28/13 at 6:12 pm
Posted by HSV Tigah
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2009
66 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 6:12 pm
Closed on new house this year, regret I did not just put pool in when we built it. LTV was 65% so I have some equity. Thinking about a refinance or equity loan so I can put pool in now. Rates have ticked back up a little so I would likely go from 3.375 to 3.5, but I am thinking with interest deduction this might still be a better move than a separate note with higher rate. Could probably pay of pool in a couple years if needed. Any thoughts on refi vs home equity loan vs personal loan???

TIA
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 6:52 pm to
Seriously? You're willing to accept a worse rate so you can get some cash to buy an asset that itself is a money hole?

If you absolutely must get a pool I'd do a 2nd home equity loan or a HELOC, you don't have to refi.

But there's no way in hell I'd get a pool in the first place anyway unless I was well off enough that I could write a check for it and not miss the money.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35509 posts
Posted on 4/28/13 at 7:48 pm to
If you settled this year the mortgage isn't seasoned and refinancing isn't an option. You may be able to get a HELOC for the pool.
Posted by Crimsonsaint24
Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
552 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 7:30 am to
You could get a unsecured loan from your local credit union. I must say the interest rate will be a bit higher though depending on your score
Posted by TyOconner
NOLA
Member since Nov 2009
11080 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:07 am to
Sounds to me like you can't afford a pool.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:40 am to
Definitely is not worth going to a higher interest rate just cause you want a pool. It is a dumb financial decision. You are going to pay a higher interest rate on a pool that isn't worth anything close to what you payed to have it put in.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166206 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:39 am to
quote:

ny thoughts on refi vs home equity loan vs personal loan???


2nd loan. pay off sooner.
Posted by tigerrocket
Member since Aug 2008
162 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:41 am to
If you are going to pay for the pool in 2 years, I would get a home equity line of credit to avoid any closing costs.

Also, keep in mind that you don't have to look at everything you do to your house as an investment for financial return. Some improvements are for quality of life, and my kids and their friends sure have enjoyed their pool. Just don't compromise your savings and investment plan so that you can put a pool in.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166206 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:08 pm to
some people enjoy having a camper or a boat in their life. Some people enjoy a pool. ONly thing different about a pool is it could minimize the number of potential buyers for your house. Doesn't really add value to it necessarily but may deter some people who absolutely don't want a pool. Could attract a family looking at a pool who may enjoy it over house that doesn't though.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97624 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 3:30 pm to
Pool and a pond... Pond be good for you
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Closed on new house this year, regret I did not just put pool in when we built it. LTV was 65% so I have some equity. Thinking about a refinance or equity loan so I can put pool in now. Rates have ticked back up a little so I would likely go from 3.375 to 3.5, but I am thinking with interest deduction this might still be a better move than a separate note with higher rate. Could probably pay of pool in a couple years if needed. Any thoughts on refi vs home equity loan vs personal loan???



Pools are a pain in the arse, and a lot of people involved in the installation/maintenance of pools are crooks or just overall shitty people to do business with. Once your pool is built, don't expect anything more out of them, as they will make all kinds of promises only to leave you hanging in the wind while your pool deteriorates (of course this is assuming they even finish the job).
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37701 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

foshizzle


nailed it
Posted by HSV Tigah
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2009
66 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:29 pm to
Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like HELOC is the way to go if I do it now. Not overly concerned with the cost, just not sitting on a free 40k right now after putting close to 200 down on the home 6 months ago. Good points on the potential reduction of buyers but I will take that risk to see the kids enjoy themselves for the next 10 years.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 9:53 pm to
Personally I would put the money in an education savings account for the kids and let them swim for free at some other guy's pool. If you want to watch the kids swim offer to help him grill steaks and you'll provide the steaks and the beer. It'll still cost much less than a pool.
Posted by nolanola
Member since Nov 2010
7580 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 10:41 pm to
I'm in the industry

quote:

Pools are a pain in the arse, and a lot of people involved in the installation/maintenance of pools are crooks or just overall shitty people to do business with. Once your pool is built, don't expect anything more out of them, as they will make all kinds of promises only to leave you hanging in the wind while your pool deteriorates (of course this is assuming they even finish the job).



and this statement is 100% accurate.
Posted by meldawg399
nola
Member since Oct 2008
1168 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 11:01 pm to
Or you can make a goal for yourself.....wait to put it in once you save up 25% or 20% of the pool cost. Any time I buy a luxury/quality of life item, I make a deal with myself that I'll buy it when I have X amount of cash or X amount of cash reserves.

If you must borrow HELOC is the better option and I think a second loan or LOC against your personal residence has tax deductibility too (subject to certain income limits).
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3079 posts
Posted on 4/30/13 at 10:55 am to
quote:

I'm in the industry


Are you in financial lending, pool building or pool maintenance?
This post was edited on 4/30/13 at 11:14 am
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:01 am to
YOu sound like a Debbie downer.
A poor one at that.
I'm getting ready to build a house and am putting in a pool.
40-45k is going to be the cost.
My kids are 2 and 4.
I assure you ill get my money's worth the next 20 yrs of my life.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35509 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:52 am to
There are two kinds of worth with a residential property. The dollar value and the value of use. I'd say you'll probably get more than your investment in value of use in that pool.
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
8959 posts
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:06 am to
Just got a 16' pool from Walmart for $350. No financing!

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