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More than 75% of British doctors prescribe a treatment they know won't work


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More than three-quarters of British doctors prescribe a treatment they know probably won't work at least once a week, like low-dose drugs, vitamins, nutritional supplements or an unnecessary exam, according to a new survey.
This use of placebo treatments directly contradicts advice from the British Medical Association, which deems them unethical.


I wonder what the totals are in the US

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oh and BTW..in other news

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UK doctors net £40m in one year from drug companies

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The money was paid to medics for “attending medical education events, support such as training and development, as well as fees for services such as speaking engagements to share good clinical practice and participation in advisory boards,” a spokesman said.

Leaders of the medical profession and pharmaceutical industries are examining whether doctors paid by drug companies should declare their dealings on a public register.


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medical professionals should have their accounts frozen and liquidated....just like they do with they illegal drug dealers.







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SundayFunday
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Beautiful. A model for what it should be like here.





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CollegeFBRules
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medical professionals should have their accounts frozen and liquidated....just like they do with they illegal drug dealers.




The clown circus at work solving our healthcare issues. Surely doctor shortages will dissipate when MDs have their assets frozen by a jealous citizenry that has already seen fit to cap their salaries.






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Kashonly
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he clown circus at work solving our healthcare issues. Surely doctor shortages will dissipate when MDs have their assets frozen by a jealous citizenry that has already seen fit to cap their salaries.



yeah, like the financial crooks...."we need them" so no jail time for their criminal practices






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Placebos can actually do some good, in fact the placebo effect is stronger than that of most drugs. They even help some when the patient is told it's a placebo. Numerous studies have shown this.





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CollegeFBRules
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yeah, like the financial crooks...."we need them" so no jail time for their criminal practices


Criminal? Outside of your straw man trying to lump bankers and doctors together, where are the doctors doing anything illegal?






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Posted by foshizzle
Placebos can actually do some good, in fact the placebo effect is stronger than that of most drugs. They even help some when the patient is told it's a placebo. Numerous studies have shown this.


Exactly.






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Placebos can actually do some good, in fact the placebo effect is stronger than that of most drugs. They even help some when the patient is told it's a placebo. Numerous studies have shown this.



so all of this is cool.






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Kashonly
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Criminal? Outside of your straw man trying to lump bankers and doctors together, where are the doctors doing anything illegal?


taking bribes to prescribe unnecessary procedures and drugs under the guise of placebo when they get caught doing it






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CollegeFBRules
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taking bribes to prescribe unnecessary procedures and drugs under the guise of placebo when they get caught doing it


Nothing in your link states what you're claiming, as stated already--placebos have been proven effective in curing ailments, and again, there is NOTHING illegal about what you're crying about.



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Quite a leap there counselor.





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Don't worry the totals in the U.S. will put Britain to shame due to Obamacare. You really are dolt.

You know where most of the U.S. fraud takes place? Under government run healthcare programs and it's only going to get worse. Forward bitches



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CollegeFBRules
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From YOUR article:

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In 2011, the German Medical Association recommended doctors use fake pills and other placebo treatments more often and said patients didn't necessarily need to be told.

Some small studies have found dummy pills work even when patients are explicitly told what they're getting and others have documented the fake treatments can spark a biological effect in the body.

"For illnesses where there is no truly effective treatment, a placebo or alternative therapy is a fine thing to do," said Dr. Walter Brown, a clinical professor of psychiatry at Brown University and author of a recent book on placebos. He was not connected to the new study.






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Kashonly
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German Medical Association


yeah, great history of medical practices there.


and they aren't prescribing placebos, they are prescribing drugs that drug companies compensate them for prescribing.



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CollegeFBRules
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So now you're disregarding parts of your article you don't like?

You've made tons of assumptions, none of which are backed by your linked article, all because you want to rail against doctors and established medical practices.

Tell me, what do you want to see happen in Kashonly fictional world? That's a single payer system you are taking odds with. I'm sure you have similar issues with whatever one wishes to call America's system of medicine. So what do you want to see happen, other than freezing the assets of MDs and causing even worse crises in medicine?






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Kashonly
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Tell me, what do you want to see happen in Kashonly fictional world?


free HC from 0-25....dead w/o insurance after

young only seek HC when they need it, older people abuse, and doctors enable them to abuse







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CollegeFBRules
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free HC from 0-25....dead w/o insurance after

young only seek HC when they need it, older people abuse, and doctors enable them to abuse


You know what, I'm all over this with you, but I'll nuance it further: free newborn through high school graduate, covered while in college / votech schooling, on your own private plan after that. I have no problem with letting people die.






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Doctor I went to for ear problems back in December put me on steroids and antibiotics but pretty much said it probably wouldn't help my hearing at all.

Charged my insurance company $500.00 for a 10 minute visit in which he prescribed said unhelpful drugs.

Also set me up for a Cscan without asking me and another hearing test even though I had just had one right before that appointment.

Needless to say, I cancelled the future appointments and tests and scans. Damn insurance milking is all that bastard was up to.

And as he predicted the medication didn't help at all.






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Kashonly
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okay I changed my mind

HSA 7,000

you pay the first 7k/year and med expenses(approved services) over 7K covered by Gov

poor people can get a loan to pay the 7k.....but if not making payments on 7k from previous year...no future gov medical lending



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