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Should I buy an i7 3770K or wait for the Haswell to come out?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:49 pm
Looking to build a new rig. I have no issues waiting for the Haswell, and I wouldn't mind moving to the new architecture. The rig I speced is a little under $2K. If I get a Haswell I can expect it to be even more. So buy now, and be happy with what I get, or wait for the Haswell and spend more?
Current specs:
Roswill Thor v2
SeaSonic 850W
Intel i7 3770K 3.5Ghz
Asus Sabertooth Z77
G.skill Ripjaws Z Series (16G, 4x4)
EVGA Geforce 670 FTW+ 4G
Crucial M4 256G SSD (x2 raid stripe)
Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB
I already have a server with 11TB of storage, so anything over the 1.5TB and the SSD's is unnecessary for this rig. The OS will be on Sata III, additional storage on one of my favorites, the WD Caviar Green. Sweet video card, could SLI but no real point. I intend to use the rig for gaming. So back to the original question. Wait to upgrade the Mobo and CPU or roll with this?
Edit: Op edited to reflect suggestions.
Current specs:
Roswill Thor v2
SeaSonic 850W
Intel i7 3770K 3.5Ghz
Asus Sabertooth Z77
G.skill Ripjaws Z Series (16G, 4x4)
EVGA Geforce 670 FTW+ 4G
Crucial M4 256G SSD (x2 raid stripe)
Western Digital Caviar Green 1.5TB
I already have a server with 11TB of storage, so anything over the 1.5TB and the SSD's is unnecessary for this rig. The OS will be on Sata III, additional storage on one of my favorites, the WD Caviar Green. Sweet video card, could SLI but no real point. I intend to use the rig for gaming. So back to the original question. Wait to upgrade the Mobo and CPU or roll with this?
Edit: Op edited to reflect suggestions.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 11:42 pm
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 8:59 pm to csorre1
How much are 2700k priced at right now? And why do you need 32gb of ram?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:01 pm to Mr Gardoki
32G of ram for fun, no real reason. I will run some work software on virtual machine, but it won't use that much. The debatable points for me are 8/16/32G ram, sli, and mobo/cpu. I'm sticking with that case, power supply, and hdd/sdd setup.
Going from 16G to 32G is only $80 though for reference.
2700K is $354 on Newegg right now. It will go down when the Haswell comes out.
Going from 16G to 32G is only $80 though for reference.
2700K is $354 on Newegg right now. It will go down when the Haswell comes out.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:06 pm to csorre1
Well you can stop at 8gb for gaming. Also for that CPU price you could get the 3770k.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:08 pm to Mr Gardoki
I'm probably going to go 16G of ram. The VM ware can be a bit taxing if I'm simulating certain things. I will probably also be gaming on one monitor while running VM on the other monitor.
Also:
Barely any difference IMO. But I didn't realize the prices were so similar. So good advice, change made, and OP edited.
I'm leaning towards no SLI since I'm already going with a 4G card.
Wait for the Haswell? That still has not been addressed.
Also:
quote:
In our testing, for example, an Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge processor earned in our CineBench R11.5 multicore rendering test a score of 1.65, compared with a Core i7-2700K (the fastest Sandy Bridge chip) in the same system earning 1.58. The chips' scores in PCMark 7 (3,679 versus 3,867) and times in Adobe Photoshop CS5 (2 minutes 47 seconds versus 2:50) and Handbrake 0.9.6 (32 seconds versus 31 seconds) also bear this out. So you will see speed bumps, but they'll be small.
Barely any difference IMO. But I didn't realize the prices were so similar. So good advice, change made, and OP edited.
I'm leaning towards no SLI since I'm already going with a 4G card.
Wait for the Haswell? That still has not been addressed.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:25 pm to csorre1
I was in the same boat like a month ago before opting to wait on the new architecture. It's just a personal thing, but I feel like waiting a few more months for slightly more "future proofing" (not that there's really such a thing) is desirable.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:29 pm to csorre1
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:29 pm to Matisyeezy
I have no advice on haswell since I don't know anything about it. I just built and I got the 3570 k. I thought about waiting and decided screw it. I could always be waiting for the next bug thing.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:33 pm to Matisyeezy
Intel considered sandy bridge/ ivy bridge to be a "tick" and a "tick plus" instead of a "tick" and a "tock". A "tick" to a "tock" is generally a much smaller upgrade than a "tock" to a "tick" if that makes sense. I expect ivy bridge to haswell to be a pretty significant upgrade.
I haven't upgraded my current rig in a while. I run hardware monitors, and it keeps up with my current usage, but with some new games coming out, and the VMware I have to run for my new job, I expect my usage to go up significantly.
I want the haswell, but I currently have a Core2 quad Q9450. Any upgrade will be quite a large one. Hence the debate on whether to wait or not.
Edit: Yes... that is $100 less than I have seen on Newegg, Amazon, and TigerDirect.
I haven't upgraded my current rig in a while. I run hardware monitors, and it keeps up with my current usage, but with some new games coming out, and the VMware I have to run for my new job, I expect my usage to go up significantly.
I want the haswell, but I currently have a Core2 quad Q9450. Any upgrade will be quite a large one. Hence the debate on whether to wait or not.
Edit: Yes... that is $100 less than I have seen on Newegg, Amazon, and TigerDirect.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:34 pm to csorre1
errr anyone have opinion on that link?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 9:45 pm to csorre1
is this an entirely new build or do you already have a pc with some of these parts? If it is an entirely new build I probably wouldn't wait around because I am impatient. If you already have a working system it might be worth waiting to see what haswell has to offer.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:03 pm to csorre1
32GB is not only useless but will bench like shtt.
CPUs and GPUs hold their rental value but that 1155 socket MOBO won't. If you want to build now, build.
Saying this, Haswell is on schedule for the last week of May/first week of June. That is right there in the middle of Q2. You might want to hold off unless you don't have a current gaming rig and just starting.
CPUs and GPUs hold their rental value but that 1155 socket MOBO won't. If you want to build now, build.
Saying this, Haswell is on schedule for the last week of May/first week of June. That is right there in the middle of Q2. You might want to hold off unless you don't have a current gaming rig and just starting.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:05 pm to csorre1
quote:
. I expect ivy bridge to haswell to be a pretty significant upgrade.
It won't be, this is something we already know. Intel was focusing on power consumption.
The real leap will be to Skylake's 14nm.
ETA:
They have tons of rumors floating around about Intel skipping Ivy-E and launching Haswell-E in the 3rd quarter of this year. That would be awesome for someone interested in upgrading. We catch up to Haswell's new tech and still have the new socket/X99 chipset.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:10 pm to LSU Coyote
Would you recommend the deal in that microcenter link?
I am currently running an Athlon II x4 Black edition with 8 gigs ram and running a 7850.
I am currently running an Athlon II x4 Black edition with 8 gigs ram and running a 7850.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:30 pm to LSU Coyote
quote:
Intel skipping Ivy-E and launching Haswell-E in the 3rd quarter of this year. That would be awesome for someone interested in upgrading
What is ivy-e?
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:31 pm to flyAU
Microcenter will generally beat online processor prices, often with CPU/Mobo combos advertised. The trade-off is that you have to make it out to a physical location and pay sales tax. They're banking that you'll be enticed to buy your other components in-store.
I put off my first build until Sandy Bridge launched, within a month or so of AMD's HD 69xx series launch. My mobo had one of the faulty chipsets that shipped with the first batch. I guess that's the tradeoff of being an early adopter, along with timing CPU and GFX product launches if you want to stay current.
I put off my first build until Sandy Bridge launched, within a month or so of AMD's HD 69xx series launch. My mobo had one of the faulty chipsets that shipped with the first batch. I guess that's the tradeoff of being an early adopter, along with timing CPU and GFX product launches if you want to stay current.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 10:54 pm to Dead Mike
I have a rig now that I can use if I choose to wait. I've been convinced to go 16G instead of 32G. I'm not concerned with benchmarks so something that benchmarks poorly doesn't bother me in the least. I just want available resources should the need arise. If I'm streaming media to a TV, gaming, and have a VM loaded and running something, I could realistically use more than 8G of ram, but certainly not more than 16G.
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:02 pm to csorre1
I'd get a new psu
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:15 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
I'd get a new psu
How do you feel about the Corsair HX750?
I was between that and the TX750
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:20 pm to csorre1
these guys swear by silverstones and to be fair they go on pretty deep discounts frequently. I have had good luck with my thermaltake. I originally bought a tx750 and it was doa but i wouldn't let that deter me from a corsair psu.
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