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Need advice for cooking gumbo in large quantites
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Questions:
Can you make a roux in a large round cast iron jambalaya kettle? Too rough? Too round?
Can I make a roux in an aluminum pot, like a small crawfish boiling pot?
Does anyone have any tips/recipes for alarge batch seafood gumbo? I'm thinking about adding gumbo to the menu at our lenten fish fry for the parish.
Thanks in advance.
Can you make a roux in a large round cast iron jambalaya kettle? Too rough? Too round?
Can I make a roux in an aluminum pot, like a small crawfish boiling pot?
Does anyone have any tips/recipes for alarge batch seafood gumbo? I'm thinking about adding gumbo to the menu at our lenten fish fry for the parish.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:16 pm to Jimbeaux
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Can you make a roux in a large round cast iron jambalaya kettle?
Yes, it's actually quite easy this way. Very easy to keep your roux moving with the rounded bottom. The kettle shape minimizes the amount of roux you have on direct heat.
I would avoid the large aluminum pot. Too much surface area to tend to, so it's more likely that you'll burn it.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:33 pm to Jimbeaux
if you're gonna cook gumbo for a bunch of people, just go buy the jar roux.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:35 pm to Jimbeaux
How much will you be making?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:47 pm to Jimbeaux
Jambalaya kettle will do great.
Use the crawfish boiling pot after you have made the roux.
Use the crawfish boiling pot after you have made the roux.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:50 pm to Gris Gris
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if you're gonna cook gumbo for a bunch of people, just go buy the jar roux.
I was thinking about doing that.
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How much will you be making?
Well, this is still an open question since we've never served this at our fish fry's before. I was thinking about making a large quantity of the base, with the ability to freeze some portion of it for later use, and then just warm it up and add the seafood for each event.
I might go with a smaller batch for the first Friday of Lent to gauge interest. Perhaps I'll make enough for 30 - 40 medium servings.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:52 pm to polizei11
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if you're gonna cook gumbo for a bunch of people, just go buy the jar roux
or a gumbo base. This is my go to when I want gumbo quick: savoie's instant roux
Scratch roux for a really big gumbo isn't worth the effort, imo.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:04 pm to HungryTiger
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Scratch roux for a really big gumbo isn't worth the effort, imo.
I'm not convinced that "it's not worth the effort".
I have tried different brands of roux mix, and I was always able to tell the difference. Some are better than others, but the question remains, "Is it worth the effort?" If I've got the time and I'm making a big batch all at once... maybe so.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:13 pm to Jimbeaux
I've had many gumbo parties serving 50. I just make a batch that serves 25 the day before. Stick it in the fridge. Then make a batch that serves 25 the day of the party. Gumbo is great the next day.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:35 pm to Jimbeaux
5 quarts sans rice will give you about 40 12 oz servings. That's generous with rice.
Recently, I made a large quantity of oven roux which worked great. Takes a long time, but there's nothing to it as far as stirring etc... Better than a jarred roux in my opinion. Just mix the oil and flour in the cast iron, put it in the oven at 350 and let it go stirring and checking every 30 minutes or so when it starts to brown.
If you're doing seafood, I'd definitely make the base and only add the seafood just before serving. Even just sitting on warm for too long can obliterate shrimp into mush. I think it's a bit risky unless you're going to serve it all pretty quickly.
We had a discussion about vegetarian gumbo over the weekend and talked about gumbo z'herbes which could be done without the ham flavor.
Recently, I made a large quantity of oven roux which worked great. Takes a long time, but there's nothing to it as far as stirring etc... Better than a jarred roux in my opinion. Just mix the oil and flour in the cast iron, put it in the oven at 350 and let it go stirring and checking every 30 minutes or so when it starts to brown.
If you're doing seafood, I'd definitely make the base and only add the seafood just before serving. Even just sitting on warm for too long can obliterate shrimp into mush. I think it's a bit risky unless you're going to serve it all pretty quickly.
We had a discussion about vegetarian gumbo over the weekend and talked about gumbo z'herbes which could be done without the ham flavor.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:10 pm to Gris Gris
This get
This gets my vote too.
Easy in the oven for that much roux.
Actually could do it on a baking pan (Half Pan or full pan) if your pot won't fit in the oven, which could be a problem with a large cast iron pot.
For me, spreading the Roux out on a half pan or full pan seems to help with the browning and I bet your kitchen has those.
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Recently, I made a large quantity of oven roux which worked great
This gets my vote too.
Easy in the oven for that much roux.
Actually could do it on a baking pan (Half Pan or full pan) if your pot won't fit in the oven, which could be a problem with a large cast iron pot.
For me, spreading the Roux out on a half pan or full pan seems to help with the browning and I bet your kitchen has those.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:16 pm to MeridianDog
A 60 quart tall aluminum stock pot will yield around 200 servings (over rice, of course)....but I don't make the roux in that pot! Make the roux on the side...easy enough to do in a large, oval Magnalite pot. Smooth bottom, no crevices or scratches, and you can sit on a stool while stirring since the pot isn't too deep. Once the roux is as dark as you'd like, you can transfer it to a large metal bowl to cool, or directly into the gumbo pot if you're ready for it immediately.
Sure, you can buy jarred roux, but if the point is to raise money for a cause, it is WAY cheaper to make it yourself.
Sure, you can buy jarred roux, but if the point is to raise money for a cause, it is WAY cheaper to make it yourself.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:25 pm to hungryone
Making roux can be time consuming. Either make it in advance or use pre made jarred roux. I've made 25 gals. of gumbo and used jarred and it was fine. Homemade roux is great in small quantities but when cooking large amounts concentrate on other quality ingredients.
Besides if you happen to burn the roux the slightest bit people will remember that. The jarred roux which is only oil and flour are made consistantly and not burned.
Besides if you happen to burn the roux the slightest bit people will remember that. The jarred roux which is only oil and flour are made consistantly and not burned.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:27 pm to Jimbeaux
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and I was always able to tell the difference
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:36 pm to MeridianDog
You put the oil and the flower in a baking pan? I'd be afraid of splashing it everywhere.
I use a deep cast iron skillet. I cook the gumbo in a big pot so I add the roux to the gumbo rather than vice versa. I have several deep roux fryers that I use. A dutch oven would work also.
I use a deep cast iron skillet. I cook the gumbo in a big pot so I add the roux to the gumbo rather than vice versa. I have several deep roux fryers that I use. A dutch oven would work also.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:41 pm to Jimbeaux
From the Recipe Thread...it works well. Extrapolated for a Prudhomme recipe for the measurments.
Large Chicken and Andouille Gumbo Recipe for a crowd
Ingredients: 30 qts chicken stock(we made our own) Dark roux made from 12 cups each of flour and Canola oil 10 lbs onions, fine diced 6 bell peppers, fine diced 3 bunches of celery, fine diced 6 bunches green onions, fine chopped 2 bunches flat leaf parsley, minced 5 lbs orka, fine diced garlic, didn't measure @20 bay leaves Black pepper, salt, and red pepper to taste 2 small jars of file' 13 lbs Andoullie and smoked sausage(we had 10lbs smoked and 3 lbs. of Jacobs)sliced and then cut into 1/4's 40 lbs of chicken, cooked and deboned, then sliced into 1/4 inch chunks(I roasted 30 lbs of hips and floured and fried 10 more lbs. Took the skin off of all beforehand.) Method: We made the roux in 2 batches and sautéed all vegetables in the roux. The rouxs were dark chocolate and turned black as we hit them with the veg. mixture (trinity plus okra, garlic came a bit later)...made for a pretty gumbo. We browned the sausage beforehand (I used an oven) to render the fat, then set it aside. Added the roux and veggies to the stock and brought to a boil, then reduced to a simmer. Added the sausage and went 30 minutes. Added the chicken and went another 30 minutes. After this, we added the green onions and parsley and cut the fire. Added the file' at this time. We began to add seasonings when we added the sausage...I didn't measure but just seasoned to taste. The product sat for about two hours before we reheated and served. Worked very well.
Large Chicken and Andouille Gumbo Recipe for a crowd
Ingredients: 30 qts chicken stock(we made our own) Dark roux made from 12 cups each of flour and Canola oil 10 lbs onions, fine diced 6 bell peppers, fine diced 3 bunches of celery, fine diced 6 bunches green onions, fine chopped 2 bunches flat leaf parsley, minced 5 lbs orka, fine diced garlic, didn't measure @20 bay leaves Black pepper, salt, and red pepper to taste 2 small jars of file' 13 lbs Andoullie and smoked sausage(we had 10lbs smoked and 3 lbs. of Jacobs)sliced and then cut into 1/4's 40 lbs of chicken, cooked and deboned, then sliced into 1/4 inch chunks(I roasted 30 lbs of hips and floured and fried 10 more lbs. Took the skin off of all beforehand.) Method: We made the roux in 2 batches and sautéed all vegetables in the roux. The rouxs were dark chocolate and turned black as we hit them with the veg. mixture (trinity plus okra, garlic came a bit later)...made for a pretty gumbo. We browned the sausage beforehand (I used an oven) to render the fat, then set it aside. Added the roux and veggies to the stock and brought to a boil, then reduced to a simmer. Added the sausage and went 30 minutes. Added the chicken and went another 30 minutes. After this, we added the green onions and parsley and cut the fire. Added the file' at this time. We began to add seasonings when we added the sausage...I didn't measure but just seasoned to taste. The product sat for about two hours before we reheated and served. Worked very well.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 6:00 pm to Jimbeaux
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Can you make a roux in a large round cast iron jambalaya kettle?
If you can reach everywhere with a spoon, you can make a roux in it. From personal experience, though, deep sided pots are a real pain to try to stir in. You've got to just about stand directly over the fire while trying not to touch the sides.
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