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and this is something Crossfit inarguably trains harder than most other lifting programs.


you do an olympic lift 30 times, form will fail, or you're doing a weight that will tax the stabilizers to failure and result in increased chance of injury.

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do you think Crossfit is the only place where form suffers?


No. But it's the only place I know that advocates 100s of reps for olympic lifts.

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Crossfit knows its lifts, if done improperly, are likely more dangerouse for individuals, but they have acknowledged this risk and it's the reason every individual is forced to take a Fundamantals class and every WOD will have a trainer overseeing it.


for 1k, 1day, and a test...you too can be a crossfit trainer!






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100 kipps is maximum exertion in a short period of time?


I love how you throw out this random number. I have never once seen a workout that calls for 100 continuous kipping pull-ups. Now maybe some fvcker on the internet thought it was a good idea to film a video of him doing it, but there's no Crossfit WOD that calls for it.

Take Murph for example, it calls for 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups and 300 squats. Almost everyone will break that into some sort of circuit where you do 10 sets of 10-20-30 or 5 sets of 20-40-60. No one is just busting out 100 pull-ups without stopping. If they are, they're in better shape than you could possibly dream.

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Try a 95% max squat or deadlift and get back to me champ.


Been there, done that, pretty much every day actually. You do know every Crossfit workout involves a heavy weigh-low rep Strength portion primarily composed of either an Olympic lift or deadlifts/squats before getting into the higher rep WODs that you see on TV right?

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They've been doing them for decades champ. Except high intensity explosive exercises arent done for absurd numbers of reps.

form fails, and injury chances go WAYY up.


Form fails in all sorts of lifts, not just Crossfit. Your argument is actually that we should workout less because we're taxing our bodies too much? Ok, we'll just work out kinda hard like you then we'll never be tired and won't have to worry about form failure!

Again, with proper focus and muscle memory, form failure should be minimal.

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ah yes, but again, sicne you are bastardizing the form ,we cant calculate the appriate FORCE applied to the muscle. Doing something 30 times doesnt give you power champ.


Not bastardizing the form. It's a different exercise. Do you still not understand how to do it after I detailed it for you?

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Doing something insanely difficult once or twice gives you power.


I already mentioned how there are low-rep high-weight lift Strength segments in every workout.

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bench is not an isolation lift... tell me more crossfit guru!


IF you want to count bench as a complex lift it's arguably the least complex lift humanly possible.

This argument is dumb though. I've been doing Crossfit for years. Before I did it I used to feel pain in my shoulders anytime I went water skiing or rock climbing. Now, I never have any issues. I find it extremely fun, I'm in insane shape, and I haven't had a single injury. Maybe I'm just lucky. I don't really give a shite. I enjoy it and the chicks dig the results so that's what matters .






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StraightCashHomey21
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nah i suck at snatches





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StraightCashHomey21
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Take Murph for example, it calls for 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups and 300 squats. Almost everyone will break that into some sort of circuit where you do 10 sets of 10-20-30 or 5 sets of 20-40-60. No one is just busting out 100 pull-ups without stopping. If they are, they're in better shape than you could possibly dream.


the murph is dead hang pull ups not kipping anyway






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FootballNostradamus



i've enjoyed your insight in this thread.


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CptBengal


I actually enjoyed your perspective as well. i think you were trying to play devils advocate more than anything though






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I haven't read the lovefest in-depth, but has anyone mentioned that when you lift in a workout, they require you to lower your weights? That's the purpose of the prescribed weight: to make it light enough to avoid form problems but heavy enough to challenge you some. If you can't lift prescribed, you scale down. Ain't nobody got time for me attempting 75# snatches, because my PR is like 45 or 50.





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yeah some videos have showed up of people doing really really stupid stuff and it's given the good cf's a bad rep. the fact is, the workouts are scaleable to anyone that wants to try. if you have a good coach, he/she wont let you lift what you cant lift without good form.






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No. But it's the only place I know that advocates 100s of reps for olympic lifts.


Find me a Crossfit WOD that has ever called for 100 reps of an Olympic lift in a workout.






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Find me a Crossfit WOD that has ever called for 100 reps of an Olympic lift in a workout.



ive done one that called for 50 power cleans






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CM Tiger83
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Randy is 75 snatches at 75#'s. That is pretty light though.





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JermStone
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ive done one that called for 50 power cleans


but the weight was scaled down a little bit right? it wasnt asking for 80-90% for your 1 rep max right?

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Randy is 75 snatches at 75#


exactly



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Well, the whole point of any sort of lifting progran is muscle memory


That should not be the point of lifting. The point of lifting should be to safely increase the level of fitness while not causing severe impediments to level of health. If you are training for a particular sport, you should lift to maximize strength/fitness and then focus most of your time on skill training for your particular sport.

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There's also a huge mental aspect of any sort of lift that requires precise technique, and this is something Crossfit inarguably trains harder than most other lifting programs.


Saying anything is "inarguable" on the OT is retardable.






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StraightCashHomey21
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but the weight was scaled down a little bit right? it wasnt asking for 80-90% for your 1 rep max right?


it was 135 across the board, it was also from the crossfit football program which is a different animal






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JermStone
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135 is reasonable. now if it was 50 @ 225...that's excessive





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FootballNostradamus
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Randy is 75 snatches at 75#'s. That is pretty light though.


75 snatches at 75# is purely a cardio workout that has very little injury risk. No one is dropping down into a squat and catching 75#. That's just a bunch of muscle snatches, almost zero risk of injury.






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CM Tiger83
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75 snatches at 75# is purely a cardio workout that has very little injury risk. No one is dropping down into a squat and catching 75#. That's just a bunch of muscle snatches, almost zero risk of injury.


Actually it is anaerobic.






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Signed up





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