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Meauxjeaux
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If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last

60 days?

Nothing will come of it, but i find it a fascinating experience.


Powerman
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
I don't know. It's more likely that it's just a statistical anomaly

Not everything is a conspiracy


stat19
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
There's never been a question that its being manipulated.

The only question is why people aren't marching with pitch ofrks and torches on the lying bastards that steal our money daily.


stat19
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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It's more likely that it's just a statistical anomaly


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Meauxjeaux
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
And quite possibly the most convenient anomaly ever?


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Powerman
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The only question is why people aren't marching with pitch ofrks and torches on the lying bastards that steal our money daily.


Because most people fall into one of these categories

A. They contribute a net negative to the treasury because of the vast amount of government resources they utilize
B. They contribute a statistically meaningless amount to the treasury and use some level of government resources
C. They contribute a lot to the treasury but are too rich to care

Really, I think the only people who should be upset about taxes are people like me. Upper middle class income and nothing meaningful in the way of deductions. But I'm not even really that upset about it. Someone has to fund all this shite and I'm just pitching in my small part.


notiger1997
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
It seems that no matter what the number is, someone is bitching about it not being the truth.


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Decatur
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
How exactly can the BLS manipulate their numbers? What exactly can they do to manipulate it. Please explain. TIA


udtiger
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
No. But there wasn't a question anywy.


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Teddy Ruxpin
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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How exactly can the BLS manipulate their numbers? What exactly can they do to manipulate it. Please explain. TIA


From what I understand, the published number isn't exact, and there are probably some mathematical "assumptions" made to project the number. Change the assumptions slightly and you get a different result, all you got to do then is explain why you made that assumption, and when you are forced to revise the numbers, you talk about how you were "wrong" about your initial assumption.

Kinda like climate models. Change a few assumptions, we're either going to boil like eggs or freeze into the opposite version of Pompeii ice cubes.


FightinTigersDammit
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
And in the media, not a single frick will be given...


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50Mullets
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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How exactly can the BLS manipulate their numbers? What exactly can they do to manipulate it. Please explain. TIA


It's called seasonal adjustments. It's a black box of voo doo that basically amounts to someone in the office tweaking the raw number a few tenths in whatever direction they want. It doesn't work forever, and it eventually has to be paid back, but it can hide a few bad months if you use it right.


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mograyback
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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. Someone has to fund all this shite and I'm just pitching in my small part.


How much of your income tax goes to government programs?


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Cracking
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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The only question is why people aren't marching with pitch ofrks and torches on the lying bastards that steal our money daily.

Because most people fall into one of these categories

A. They contribute a net negative to the treasury because of the vast amount of government resources they utilize
B. They contribute a statistically meaningless amount to the treasury and use some level of government resources
C. They contribute a lot to the treasury but are too rich to care

Really, I think the only people who should be upset about taxes are people like me. Upper middle class income and nothing meaningful in the way of deductions. But I'm not even really that upset about it. Someone has to fund all this shite and I'm just pitching in my small part.




Pitching in your small part directly into a fire that will consume every dollar without any meaningful improvements to our country.

You sound like one of the sheeple that are talked about. "I'm just pitching in my small part," why not give more to a charity with a good reputation for a cause you can get behind? Do you think the government is spending your money appropriately? You are OK with giving 2+ months of your hard work to the government? I respect your opinion often, but you should demand more productivity for your current tax payments before giving more.


Powerman
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
I actually disagree with a lot of our government spending but we're stuck with most of it. Not like we can expect the country to thrive if we stop sending out SS checks tomorrow.


Cracking
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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I actually disagree with a lot of our government spending but we're stuck with most of it


NO WE ARE NOT. This is the attitude of most democrats (I don't know your affiliation). The attitude of we cannot cut spending unless it is military spending because then we are not pure democrats if we agree with cutting spending.

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Not like we can expect the country to thrive if we stop sending out SS checks tomorrow.


SS is a non-discretionary expenditure that is unsustainable in the long run. Nobody is proposing to dissolve SS, but to sit back and say it's OK is a joke. Just because it is sustainable for 2 more decades, doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit our country if we reformed it now to save money.

The country has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. If and when the country (majority of voters) realizes that spending is the problem, we can move forward. EVERYTHING needs to be cut or reformed soon. Cause soon we will see the REAL fiscal cliff. If you think I am being extreme, I am only trying to figure out how someone would be willing to pay more to the government as they continue to increase spending and debt. It is a bad investment at this point.


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NHTIGER
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow


There is no chance that the BLS number will jump to 8.3% tomorrow. Period.


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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
I have no doubt the job numbers were manipulated leading up to the election, regardless of the published job numbers.


skinny domino
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
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I have no doubt the job numbers were manipulated leading up to the election, regardless of the published job numbers.


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ChineseBandit58
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re: If UE really is 8.3 tomorrow, is there any question it was manipulated the last
Anyone who thinks it was not manipulated is just willfully ignorant and blissfully stupid.


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