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How important is refresh rate when buying an HD TV?


It appears that most 3D LED-HD Samsung TV's come with 240 hz refresh rate...most non-3D LED-HD TV's come with 120 hz.

Can you still get 240 hz when watching a 3D capable TV in 2D-mode?

Why do I care about refresh rate? What other qualities need to be considered? Dynamic Contrast Ratio?

And I assume 1080p is the standard now-a-days...







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The Sad Banana
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And I assume 1080p is the standard now-a-days
That's the highest HD resolution, but most things aren't shot in 1080p yet. Someone check me on that, but that's what I've always thought. Your refresh rate being higher is good for sports, but to be honest the naked eye really can't tell.



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Man asks question about TV refreshment





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Schwartz
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Why do I care about refresh rate?


The first time you set it to anything higher than what you're used to, you'll stop caring, because it looks like shite for the most part. You get so used to the way you already watch stuff that the higher refresh rates look like shite.






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dillpickleLSU
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cluckster....the refresh rate is really important when watching sports and movies with a lot of action....I think I can still notice some of the pixelation with the 120 hz.....If you're putting the tv in an area that doesn't get a whole lot of light, save the trouble and money and go with a plasma...Plasma's are cheaper and have a 600hz refresh rate





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Chicken
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This TV will on a wall that has a wall of windows opposite it. I must go with LED/LCD...





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There is no uniform standard for measuring contrast ratio. This needs to be said before anything else. Generally you can only compare the CR rating with other models by the same brand and usually for the same model year also. None of them are accurate regardless of what they state but because there is no set statndard they can get away with however they measure it.

So mfg list only dynamic CR, some only CR and some state both. Some rate there CR so high it is absolutely ridiculous. For example Samsung has some models rated at 25,000:1 for an LCD display which would be impossible unless it uses LED for the back lighting (2-4 times the cost for this backlighting currently). Almost all models use florescent back lighting which will have some bleeding through of the light on totally black parts of the screen.

Most plasmas have much better black levels but also can develop burn-in, which LCDs do not.

Having said that, Contrast Ratio is a measurement of this difference between the blackest black and the whitest white that the display can display. Dynamic CR is when the back lighting is adjusted dynamically for darker scenes to give you better black levels. A processor inside the display tries to adjust the levels depending on the scene currently on the display.

If done properly it CAN help to give the appearance of higher contrast ratios, but done poorly, it can crush black (blacken shadows so you cannot see what is in the shadows good).






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Jcorye1
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I honestly can't watch the higher refresh rates and movies. It makes every movie look 100 times worse because you can see the camera's slight movements and stuff like that. Sports its better, because if you spring for 240 ghz, you can actually see the ball in motion.





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Panasonic GT30/VT30 or Samsung PN**D8000 FTW









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WelcomeToDeathValley
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240 hz refresh rate


difference watching sports and movies, some people dont like it though; I love mine (not 3D)






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Chicken
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Ellunchboxo
sounds like that article favors 120 hz






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ehidal1
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difference watching sports and movies

Exactly. You have to switch modes from movies to sports. Sports look great, but the movies look like Cinemax softcore quality at the higher rates.






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Casty McBoozer
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And I assume 1080p is the standard now-a-days


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That's the highest HD resolution,

No, no it isn't, but something labeled as a television set won't support higher resolution because there's no need to. No DVD/Blu-ray/cable box is going to put out any higher than that. LCD displays for computers support much higher than 1920x1080 resolutions.






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The Sad Banana
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Well, I meant in the context of a TV.





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Chicken
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lsut81, is Best Buy selling that thing? I bet it is steep? Who do you think I am, Mark Zuckerberg?





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Lsut81
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Who do you think I am, Mark Zuckerberg?


Dont listen to half of the morons on the board...

50D8000 $2000
59D8000 $2800
64D8000 $3700

55VT30 $2700
65VT30 $4300

Cnet will rank Panny #1 and Samsung #2. These two sets are by far the best thing on the market. 100k hr rated half lives (longer than LED/LCD), deeper blacks, richer colors, smoother motion...

Both use coating on the glass that make them as or less reflective than the Samsung LEDS.

Check them out, guarantee you wont do an LED once you see a true motion/contrast demo on them.






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Ellunchboxo
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Chicken


I have a 120hz Sharp. My friend has a 240hz Samsung. They are both the same size and I can't tell the difference when watching the same program on both sets. For the money, I'd go with the 120






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