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Youth rifle for deer

Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Lsutmorg
Member since Jun 2015
324 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:45 pm
Want to buy my 6 year old a rifle to kill first deer this year. Thinking .223. Is is little for his age. I have another son that is 1 so buying this really for 2 boys so want to get it right.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12102 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:57 pm to
Howa 7mm08 has a youth rifle that comes with an adult stock.
Posted by Cajun367
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2017
1928 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:09 pm to
I'd say 243 or 270.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:22 pm to
7mm-08. I have seen plenty of children around that age shoot them. They work great.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17259 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:32 pm to
7mm-08

Ruger American has a great youth model
Posted by LSU Tiger Bob
South
Member since Sep 2011
3002 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:35 pm to
.243
Posted by Yammie250F
Member since Jul 2010
904 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:36 pm to
30-30
What my daughter has been using
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:41 pm to
A 7mm-08 from one of the big manufacturers (Ruger, Remington, savage, etc) so it’ll be easier to get a full size stock later on.

Not a .223/.243
There’s no need to limit horsepower for fear of recoil. The 7mm-08 is a very soft shooter.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24996 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:50 pm to
7mm-08 took the NE state record elk at 200yds last year (I think it was last year)

Great round.
Posted by roobedoo
hall summit
Member since Jun 2008
1089 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:54 pm to
Grew up with a 6 mm. It has similar ballistics to 243. Dropped several in their tracks with it and it was easy to handle.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4460 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 2:02 pm to
Bought a Savage Axis 2 7mm 08 for my son and really like the gun and round. Has the accu-trigger and came with a 3-9 Burris scope for around 300. Has a 50 rebate as well. Got it from outdoor superstore. I couldn’t find a local dealer with the axis 2 in 7mm 08.

Savage offers the axis in a youth size, but not sure if you can get an axis 2 in youth size stock though. As others have stated, you may be able to get a youth stock separately.
Posted by Stumpjumper_84
Prairieville
Member since Sep 2017
49 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 2:13 pm to
7mm-08 they also have reduced recoil loads also available if needed
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6812 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Want to buy my 6 year old a rifle to kill first deer this year.


While there are lots of hunters who are fans of using 243s and 22 caliber center fires for youth hunters, I'm not one of them. I read a lot about extremely deadly shots made w/ smaller rounds, but every now and then there'll be an unexpected disappointing result. I think larger rounds are more consistent and a little more forgiving w/ shot placement (no one makes a good shot every time).

The 300 BlackOut, 300/221 or 300 Whisper would be a great youth gun. Others I'd recommend are the 260 Rem, 7-08 Rem and 308 Win. I imagine all of the above rounds will have more recoil than the 223, but he may still be able to shoot one well; you'll know after a few shots. Whatever the caliber is, start out w/ reduced recoil loads. A reduced recoil 308 Win actually recoils less than a full power 243 Win. When my son started hunting at 10 y/o I bought him a full size Savage bolt action (308 Win) package gun w/ regular stock. He shot reduced recoil loads that I handloaded. While it's true he won't notice the recoil from a shot taken at live game, I'd still do everything I could to prevent him from developing bad habits at the bench; bad habits at the shooting bench usually result in bad habits in the field. Tips for shooting from the bench:

Use good ear muffs AND soft plugs at the same time.
Keep the number of shots in a shooting session to a minimum.
Consider a shooting sled of some sort to minimize recoil.
Consider a small sandbag (we used to call it a "sissy bag" when I was growing up) between the butt stock and shoulder if it doesn't mess up how the stock fits.
If it looks like he's having problems handling the recoil, DO NOT force the issue.

Full disclosure: I've never hunted w/ a 7-08 rifle, but I deer hunt w/ a 15" barreled 7-08 handgun (Remington XP-100); it's one of my favorite deer hunting handguns. In addition, I killed 3 hogs w/ it this week. OTOH, I recently bought a Thompson/Center Compass rifle on sale to be a "grandchild's gun." Guess what.... it's chambered in 7-08.

Good luck and keep us up to date!






Posted by Cajunate
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
3335 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 3:13 pm to

Got a .243 here I'm selling if interested.
Browning stalker synthetic w/B.O.S.S.
Posted by 4mileduckman
orig from lake charles
Member since Jan 2013
876 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 3:21 pm to
Ruger american compact 7mm-08 shoot the hornady reduced recoil rounds
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 3:32 pm to
Just don't over think it. It really doesn't matter. Pick what he wants and what fits him well and will help teach good habits.

You can't go wrong with any of the aforementioned calibers.

That said, my first rifle was a model seven .243. never failed me 100-350 yards.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 10/21/17 at 8:51 pm to
Another gun to look at is an AR15 chambered in 6.5 Grendel. Not a lot of recoil at all and it being a gas gun helps. Also give you an excuse to buy a new AR.
This post was edited on 10/21/17 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Tigerhead
Member since Aug 2004
1176 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Just don't over think it. It really doesn't matter. Pick what he wants and what fits him well and will help teach good habits.


This is good advice. Remember, good shot placement trumps all else. You need to get him lots of range time and if he can't learn to shoot a decent group at the same distance as your feeder shot, then he's probably too young to start hunting. He either isn't strong enough or coordinated enough to hold a rifle on target or he's recoil shy. I say this because a 6 year old that is little for his age is very possibly just too young. But that's more about his mentality than his size or age. A .223 will kill a deer all day long if the shot is spot on. And lots of deer are crippled every year with large caliber magnums because the shooter either can't handle the recoil or the pressure of making the shot.
Posted by nismosao
Slidell
Member since Mar 2008
895 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 10:59 am to
quote:

chambered in 6.5 Grendel.


This caliber but in CZ 527 or Howa mini.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56306 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Ruger american compact 7mm-08 shoot the hornady reduced recoil rounds
this is what my boy shoots. 1 deer and 2 hogs shot w it. Zero steps.

It's just personal preference but I would go .243, 7mm 08, or find a Semi .308. I shot a model 100 Winchester in 308 growing up. It is like a 20 gauge
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