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re: What in the hell is wrong with this guy? (In regards to Speck limits)
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:13 am to TJG210
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:13 am to TJG210
let me jump in here too...
25 is a very liberal limit and it's not often I catch a limit unless w/ a guide. but people are freaking out because of a slow year and it's a knee jerk reaction. I'd be ok w/ a lower limit but some actual data that there are less fish in the water is required before lowering limits because some guides in a certain area are struggling. 2 long cold winters, no shrimp, BP, etc probably all contribute to lower catch rates along w/ tons of fishing pressure.
Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and if limits are lowered it will be because scientific data suggests they should be lowered.
25 is a very liberal limit and it's not often I catch a limit unless w/ a guide. but people are freaking out because of a slow year and it's a knee jerk reaction. I'd be ok w/ a lower limit but some actual data that there are less fish in the water is required before lowering limits because some guides in a certain area are struggling. 2 long cold winters, no shrimp, BP, etc probably all contribute to lower catch rates along w/ tons of fishing pressure.
Hopefully cooler heads will prevail and if limits are lowered it will be because scientific data suggests they should be lowered.
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Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:34 am to specchaser
How about lower the limit to 15 per person on vessels for hire and leave the recreational limit at 25. Those charter guys are probably catching 30,000 plus trout per year per boat.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:39 am to bayoudude
Average 82 trout per day for 365 days?!?! Wow. No way. I'd say that they average about 50 per trip during the summer, not counting trips that are washed out or dedicated to redfish. And then it's much lower in the "offseason".
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:40 am to specchaser
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I'd be ok w/ a lower limit but some actual data that there are less fish in the water is required before lowering limits because some guides in a certain area are struggling.
Exactly! But this change for changes sake is silly. If you don't want to keep 25 fish, don't keep them, but don't piss on the folks who want to. Like I said earlier, I know plenty of people who like fish, who don't fish.....so when I catch plenty I never have a shortage of people to give them to. I honestly don't even freeze trout most of the time.....I keep enough for me and my family to eat fresh, and give the rest away. Nothings ever wasted.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:41 am to lsufishnhunt
Hell the guides out of cocodrie catch 5 and 6 man limits all the time during the summer months. Two weekends ago the guys at the camp next to us went with scheer out of sportsman's and caught 260.
ETA: some of that may have been white trout but point is those charter guys are averaging as much as a fleet of recreational boats.
ETA: some of that may have been white trout but point is those charter guys are averaging as much as a fleet of recreational boats.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 9:43 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:43 am to lsufishnhunt
I don't understand the sudden urge to reduce limits. Just 3 years ago the trout fishing was as good as it's ever been. I doubt that the fishery suddenly collapsed since then.
We just need to accept that it's an off year and it will improve in the next few years. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that we will have an excellent fall and then a very good summer next year - assuming that we don't have another brutal winter.
We just need to accept that it's an off year and it will improve in the next few years. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that we will have an excellent fall and then a very good summer next year - assuming that we don't have another brutal winter.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:44 am to lsufishnhunt
Honestly the bp disaster was the best thing to ever happen to trout fishing in south east LA. One season of no fishing made a huge difference.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:45 am to bayoudude
quote:Then there should be an every other year season. That would be great.
Honestly the bp disaster was the best thing to ever happen to trout fishing in south east LA. One season of no fishing made a huge difference.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:46 am to bayoudude
Yeah, those big weekends happen. But what did scheer average per trip for the 7 days prior and the 7 days after?
If he caught 260 trout every weekend of the year he would have caught just under 14,000 fish that year. That is a drop in the bucket.
If he caught 260 trout every weekend of the year he would have caught just under 14,000 fish that year. That is a drop in the bucket.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:47 am to AlxTgr
It would suck but man those on years would be fantastic. Even if they left the fish alone and made more restrictions on the number of trawlers that would greatly help as they kill untold numbers of many species as by catch.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:49 am to lsufishnhunt
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If he caught 260 trout every weekend of the year he would have caught just under 14,000 fish that year. That is a drop in the bucket.
Maybe but expand that number and count all the fish from the dozens of other charter guides just in the terrebonne area and it adds up to a fairly substantial size of total catch just as those commercial snapper bastards. Nothing against making a living charter fishing but they do have more of an impact than weekend warriors and that is not debatable IMO.
This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:54 am to bayoudude
Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. There's no doubt that the guides account for much more of the catch than the average rec fisherman. With that said, the science has always said that in louisiana the fisherman have nearly zero affect on the population of the trout. The habitat supports such a large population that they're natural mortality is the biggest influence, hence the liberal limits compared to neighboring state with a fraction of the habitat.
Now, in years down the road (likely beyond our lifetime) the loss of habitat will cause limits to be reduced.
Now, in years down the road (likely beyond our lifetime) the loss of habitat will cause limits to be reduced.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:57 am to lsufishnhunt
I agree with the loss of habitat. Once the barrier islands are completely gone it will be a game changer for sure.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:09 am to bayoudude
I agree 
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:09 am to bayoudude
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I agree with the loss of habitat. Once the barrier islands are completely gone it will be a game changer for sure.
It really kills me to see what appears to be inaction in restoring the islands and marshes.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:15 am to TJG210
There are things happening, but it's just not nearly enough. Kinda like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound. The state is trying, but there are too many hurdles to make a big difference. Marsh creation and barrier island projects are just delaying the inevitable. The opposition to sediment diversions by rec fisherman is simply mind blowing. This opposition is probably coming from the same guides that are complaining about trout populations.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:16 am to TJG210
At least we've got some bitchin levees being built
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:17 am to lsufishnhunt
I thought most of the opposition was oyster fisherman and other commercials?
On second thought I have seen some bitching by shortsighted recreation warriors.
On second thought I have seen some bitching by shortsighted recreation warriors.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:19 am to lsufishnhunt
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The opposition to sediment diversions by rec fisherman is simply mind blowing.
Don't want to totally derail the thread but this really pisses me off. I would much rather the fresh/salt line but pushed further back than be able to catch trout in down town Houma
Just in my short 33 yr lifetime lakes Decade and Boudreaux have gone from fresh to salt more so Boudreaux and the land loss along the coast is staggering. My kids will never see land camps on last island or hell maybe not even see enough beach to play on.
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:20 am to lsufishnhunt
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The opposition to sediment diversions by rec fisherman is simply mind blowing.
You can count shrimpers and oystermen in that group as well. They shite bricks if the subject is ever brought up. They don't want to have to travel to get their catch.
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