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re: Two Hunters Shoot the Same Buck, Owner Decided with Coin Toss
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:47 am to Yellerhammer5
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:47 am to Yellerhammer5
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My neighbors already do that before they shoot the deer
Speaking of which, dog season opens tomorrow in Area 2.
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:50 am to tigerfoot
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why, does that make you shoot deer in the leg?
Wasn't that bad of a shot.
3 inches higher and that deer drops where it's at
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 11:52 am
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:53 am to lsupride87
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I dont know. I think the 11 year old needs to learn when you shoot a deer in the freaking leg you screwed up big time As a father I would not give my son the option in this scenario
I'm kinda going with this thinking also.
If you give the kid the deer he hasn't learned the importance of making a good shot on a deer.
I understand the disappoinment for the kid but the father would have been teaching him a valuable lesson for the future this way.
That said, just a tough call.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:55 am to AUTimbo
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I'm kinda going with this thinking also. If you give the kid the deer he hasn't learned the importance of making a good shot on a deer. I understand the disappoinment for the kid but the father would have been teaching him a valuable lesson for the future this way.
What do you think of people using dogs to recover deer that had a bad shot on them? Isn't that kind of the same thing?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:01 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:were that shot and killed by someone else? If so, that would suck.
What do you think of people using dogs to recover deer that had a bad shot on them? Isn't that kind of the same thing?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:03 pm to tigerfoot
Doesn't matter. Finding one with a dog is being rewarded for what is usually a bad shot
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Not the issue. The issue is that the bullet shot by the kid did not kill the deer, and if not for the other hunter the deer would not have been found.
Wasn't that bad of a shot.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:06 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Ok. One deer was dead as a result of the action of the hunter that found it, one was not.
Doesn't matter
Ignoring that means we cant really discuss this topic.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:07 pm to Boats n Hose
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Also, I may be mistaken but I believe you're allowed to cross property lines to retrieve game you shot on your property/property you have permission to hunt. At least I have always been taught this.
I'm not so sure about that. I've always been taught to get permission before crossing property lines to retrieve game that you have killed. I'd be pissed as hell too, if someone came walking through my property with out permission. Not to mention the lack of respect one shows by walking onto another persons property without permission, you could mess up their hunt, and if that ever happened i would never let that person retrieve a deer on my property again.
Be respectful to your neighbors and ask first before you go trotting through someone else's property.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:07 pm to AUTimbo
quote:I am just going to shoot one, and let my kid walk up on it and tell him he killed it. Seems easier that way.
If you give the kid the deer he hasn't learned the importance of making a good shot on a deer.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:09 pm to tigerfoot
Kid only finds the deer because someone else shot it.
Hunter only finds a deer through use of dog.
Both needed outside help to get the animal they shot (assuming kid would have gotten the deer). I agree 100% that it's not the kids deer. What I'm saying is that finding one with a dog is also being rewarded for a bad shot
Hunter only finds a deer through use of dog.
Both needed outside help to get the animal they shot (assuming kid would have gotten the deer). I agree 100% that it's not the kids deer. What I'm saying is that finding one with a dog is also being rewarded for a bad shot
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:19 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:But they killed it. The dog didn't kill it.
Hunter only finds a deer through use of dog.
If there was any wound into the vital area I may be more understanding.
My dad is color blind, and if he shoots one low he has hell. He is good on the track, but not on blood not up high so it rubs off. We track deer to help him find quicker, that is no different.
What about using a buddy to mark last blood? We could go round, but once again, either your actions killed the deer or did not.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:23 pm to smoked hog
Giving the kid the deer is the very definition of "everybody gets s trophy". Buncha lefties up in here today
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:24 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
If it's a mortal wound and they have landowner permission absolutely...As long as it's not prime hunt time where they are going to screw up my hunt.
If you don't know where you hit the deer you probably shouldn't be in the woods.
If you don't know where you hit the deer you probably shouldn't be in the woods.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:29 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What do you think of people using dogs to recover deer that had a bad shot on them? Isn't that kind of the same thing?
Not necessarily. Typically, people who use dogs to recover deer, and actually find the deer, it was a good enough shot to actually kill the deer, even though it ran, say 200+ yards. The shot the kid put on that deer was in the leg, and if that land owner did not shoot the deer than it would have died much later due to infection in the leg, with a much lesser chance of recovering the animal before the meat spoils.
The land owner shouldn't have been mad for the kid taking a shot on the deer. If I were him, I would have at least caped the deer and given the head and cape to the kid, maybe offer some of the meat.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:34 pm to smoked hog
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Like if a coyote caught it or EHD or starvation. That shot however won't kill it. This coming from a guy who has made a bad shot or two. I learned little from marginal shots that I recovered. The one I didn't taught me a hell of a lot more.
The one he was talking about, from the other poster, was bleeding from the shoulder. Not the leg shot deer.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:35 pm to tigerfoot
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He did not kill it, is was not 'his'. He could've just as easily clean missed, then it got shot on the other property. Does he lay claim because he shot at it?
I think the Dad tracks it up, sees the non fatal shot then shakes the landowners hand and walks off.
If I am the landowner, I probably offer the deer to them, but under no circumstances can I imagine accepting the deer if I am the father.
Sounds like a great way to discourage a kid just starting out from the sport.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:39 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Doesn't matter. Finding one with a dog is being rewarded for what is usually a bad shot
Yea. Putting a bad shot on a deer also absolves you of the responsibility of finding the animal you shot.
This whole thread is dumb. If all you rifle hunting pussies would just bow hunt like real men we wouldn't have this problem.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:39 pm to JTM72
I had this same thing happen to me when I was younger (technically not a kid). When I was in college I saw what would have been the 2nd biggest deer of my life cross a field chasing a doe right at daylight (maybe a few min before) and I took the shot. I thought it was about 175 yds but it ended up being 290.
When I shot the deer ran off doing the holding one leg up run like I had heart shot it. I got down went over to where it was and heard another shot from a friend of mine hunting the same property about 500 yds away. We met up and saw where the deer I shot had ran by him when I got down and he killed it. It never crossed my mind to claim that deer, I was just happy he killed it so it didn't suffer and never get recovered.
When I shot the deer ran off doing the holding one leg up run like I had heart shot it. I got down went over to where it was and heard another shot from a friend of mine hunting the same property about 500 yds away. We met up and saw where the deer I shot had ran by him when I got down and he killed it. It never crossed my mind to claim that deer, I was just happy he killed it so it didn't suffer and never get recovered.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:42 pm to AlxTgr
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I've seen WAY bigger misses than that.
Not on the OB. Everyone here kills monster deer that drop in their tracks. Hell, half the time they make it so the deer falls straight into their truck bed.
Back on topic, as an adult, no way I would take a deer that I had only shot in the leg and someone else killed. However, if it was a kid that had shot it in the leg, no way I would give up seeing the look on his face at killing that deer for a few extra pounds of deer meat. Give the kid the deer.
For those of you who say that wouldn't teach the kid a lesson, he is 11 and is learning to hunt. You are a bunch of heartless SOBs if you don't feel bad for him. Do you think this makes him more or less likely to hunt again?
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