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Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:11 pm to dnm3305
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Well I feel the same way about a 200 yard shot with a rifle.
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A 45 yard shot on a WT deer with bow is unethical. PERIOD
Then stop trying to crawfish from your statement and say you meant it "relatively". And stop apologizing to the OP. If the statement above is finite, then let it be finite. You think the OP was unethical.
I think you are foolish for this and need to get to the range more if that is the case, but I would respect your opinion more.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:13 pm to tigerfoot
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I am still unclear on your earlier assessment of him being unethical. But I also have nothing else to add
I prematurely made the assessment that he didnt shoot often at 200 yards and extended his range on an iffy shot. I was wrong as the OP stated he routinely shoots over 200 yards and beyond that.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:15 pm to 34venture
From what I can tell 34 this a group of guys that don't take kindly to being judged unethical based on an arbitrary set of values.
People start off by aggressively attacking and calling others unethical, using a keyboard to spew profanity (not this thread), and make wild assumptions and it tends to make the locals circle the wagons.
JD didn't come here and ask if anyone thought the shot was unethical. He asked what we thought happened with his deer.
People start off by aggressively attacking and calling others unethical, using a keyboard to spew profanity (not this thread), and make wild assumptions and it tends to make the locals circle the wagons.
JD didn't come here and ask if anyone thought the shot was unethical. He asked what we thought happened with his deer.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:18 pm to Bleeding purple
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Then stop trying to crawfish from your statement and say you meant it "relatively". And stop apologizing to the OP. If the statement above is finite, then let it be finite. You think the OP was unethical.
I generally respect everything you post on here. With that said, Im not crawfishing on anything. I assumed the OP was unethical. I assumed he didnt shoot much at 200 yards because if there is "white hair only" that means he missed his mark by at least 6-8". If he was too incompetent to put a round within 6-8" of where he was aiming, he stretched his range. It turns out that I was wrong and that he shoots often and it was just a fricked up scenario on his part and shite happens. That is what I mean by relative. If the OP shoots often, then 200 yards is ethical. If he doesnt shoot often, then 200 yards is not. I assumed he didnt because he missed. My original statement was RELATIVE to whether or not he shot often.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:19 pm to Bleeding purple
I'm tired of ethics being brought into hunting. We bait stuff so we can shoot them while they are getting a bite to eat, so we can eat them and hang their heads on the wall.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:22 pm to tenfoe
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We bait stuff so we can shoot them while they are getting a bite to eat, so we can eat them and hang their heads on the wall.
Maybe you do.
I don't mount deer.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:25 pm to tigerfoot
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I don't mount deer.
Then you're not an ethical hunter. Let's fight about it.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:28 pm to tigerfoot
Then you should only shoot does, because they are better eating and shooting bucks would be unethical, right?
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:33 pm to Jack Daniel
quote:Mid stride at that distance it is easy to shoot too far back if you're in a hurry. With that said a 300 would still do a lot of damage and the deer may well be laying close. Good luck finding your buck.
The deer was crossing my lane fast behind a doe and I just rushed my shot. It happens
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:34 pm to Judge Smails
At what point of hunting with a rifle does it become unethical to shoot a deer where my rifle is zeroed in at?
I agree that if I'm hunting with a iron sighted 30-30 then yeah a 200 yard shot might be unethical, but the person who does that probably doesn't need you to tell them that.
I don't think 45 yards is unethical on a modern bow in the hands of a skilled person.
I agree that if I'm hunting with a iron sighted 30-30 then yeah a 200 yard shot might be unethical, but the person who does that probably doesn't need you to tell them that.
I don't think 45 yards is unethical on a modern bow in the hands of a skilled person.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:46 pm to tenfoe
quote:I like beef better, so I just pop em with paint guns, they get sooooo mad.
Then you should only shoot does, because they are better eating and shooting bucks would be unethical, right?
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:50 pm to tigerfoot
wnat a shite show this thread has become...
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:51 pm to jorconalx
We had shitty boots!
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:52 pm to dnm3305
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If the OP shoots often, then 200 yards is ethical. If he doesnt shoot often, then 200 yards is not
I am often accused of being too verbose here. Many times that is a correct assessment. However, it may have been wise to add a few more words to your first post in this thread to better define your accusation.
Just so we are clear,
Don't pull the trigger unless you know you are going to hit the target, unless it is on a pig or yote.
200 yards is well within ethical range for most experienced rifle hunters.
Moving targets are harder to hit and the ethics of shooting at that range on a moving target are shooter dependent.
45 yards with a bow could be ethical on some animals but I do not feel that it is ever ethical on a whitetail deer regardless of how much the shooter practices.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:54 pm to Bleeding purple
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200 yards is well within ethical range for most experienced rifle hunters.
quote:Whose words are these?
45 yards with a bow could be ethical on some animals but I do not feel that it is ever ethical on a whitetail deer regardless of how much the shooter practices.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 2:57 pm to jorconalx
don't you laugh
We got a lot of shite going on, except helping JD find his deer. We have made a dent in salvaging his honor.
We got a lot of shite going on, except helping JD find his deer. We have made a dent in salvaging his honor.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:06 pm to Bleeding purple
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I am often accused of being too verbose here. Many times that is a correct assessment. However, it may have been wise to add a few more words to your first post in this thread to better define your accusation.
Yes, youre right. Fair enough.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:15 pm to dnm3305
i shoot spikes just to watch them run off with 3 legs, so fricking funny they think they still have the 4th.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 3:17 pm to tigerfoot
Just re-read some of the asshat-ery in this thread. In my humble opinion, very few Louisiana hunters practice 200 yd. shots. Most don't hunt areas where that type of shot is available. As for ethics, only the trigger man knows whether or not he is comfortable taking a shot no matter what the distance. The mob mentality on this board is quickly becoming OT-ish. That is all, carry on. I fixing to go get a beer and popcorn...
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