re: New Deer rifle

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A 140 gr bullet at 2700 fps will behave the same whether it's shot from the 260 Rem, 6.5 Swede or 6.5 Creedmore. The key is proper bullet selection and placement.

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Amen and well said!

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300 BO is too slow and will tumble and not expand at times.

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Yes, the 300 BO is not a high velocity round, but when used properly it's still a very effective deer hunting round.

It tumbles only w/ heavy bullets at subsonic velocities. Since those bullets don't expand at subsonic velocities, tumbling is how they cause internal damage. The lighter expanding bullets at supersonic velocities expand like a typical hunting bullet and do not tumble.

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260 Remington, the rifle that should be more popular than the 6.5 Creedmoor.

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And the .264 win mag should be more popular that 6.5prc, 6.5x47, 6.5-300 wby mag, etc.

Remington put the bullets in a very slow twist barrel that only took very light bullets as did Winchester with the .264.

Both cartridges were a victim of poor marketing and engineering.

Shot that until I couldnt get brass for it without paying 4x what it was actually worth.

Remington got a chance to do it right after failing the first time and they failed again.

.308 is the way to go in South La.

Lots of legacy calibers did. Speed was the name of the game pre-rangefinders. High BC, accuracy, and brass life are the new game since everyone who shoots far is toting a rangefinder

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260 Remington, the rifle that should be more popular than the 6.5 Creedmoor.

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I enjoy a good bash the creedmoor thread as much as anyone, but it still would have been created even if the 260 was a household name, and it still would have kicked it out of the house.

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The 280 AI is simply a 280 Rem loaded to its potential. Hornady and others used to sell "bolt action only" 280 Remington loads that were loaded like they should have been from the start. They pushed 140 grain lead core bullets at 3100 fps.

Remington has shite the bed on almost every cartridge they came out with. The 6mm Remington is another example. The populous chose a rifle originally intended for varmints, 243 Win, over it. I have seen way more passthroughs with a 6mm Rem than a 243. I am glad the 6.5 CM is replacing the 243 as gun shy cartridge, but the 260 was supposed to do that and Remingtion failed.