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Gun for home protection
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:07 pm
I don't have anything against guns, but I've never been a gun user. With all the violence out there, I'm thinking about getting something to keep in the house. Thinking around $300-400 range. What's a gun to look at and should I go to pawn shops or other places?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:10 pm to Crawfish Anytime
A pump shotgun is the best thing for home defense and you can get some decent ones within your budget.
Remington 870 or the mossberg pump will be your best bet.
Of course, make sure you get some training in some form or another. Either take a class or have a friend who grew up with guns teach you safety mainly, and how to shoot 2nd.
Remington 870 or the mossberg pump will be your best bet.
Of course, make sure you get some training in some form or another. Either take a class or have a friend who grew up with guns teach you safety mainly, and how to shoot 2nd.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:29 pm to Crawfish Anytime
Lots to cover in this subject and you'll get sound advice from this site. But I wouldn't buy anything till you've shot a few different guns- pistols and shotguns- in different calibers and configurations. (Assuming you haven't done so already, no offense if I'm assuming too much). You'll want a weapon you are familiar with and comfortable using.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:41 pm to Crawfish Anytime
I'd say a youth pump shotgun in 20 gauge. That way anyone in your house could use it if they had to, wife kids etc.
Like downshift said get lots of training and safety too.
Like downshift said get lots of training and safety too.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:44 pm to Crawfish Anytime
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I don't have anything against guns, but I've never been a gun user. With all the violence out there, I'm thinking about getting something to keep in the house. Thinking around $300-400 range. What's a gun to look at and should I go to pawn shops or other places?
I would consider the availability of training since you're new to firearms. I could hand you a $3000 AR15 kitted up but if you don't how to actually fight, then it's an expensive club. If I was in your shoes what I would do is check out the defensive training classes and what firearm types they train on. Just remember that the firearm is a tool and tools are only as good as its user.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:47 pm to Crawfish Anytime
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Thinking around $300-400 range
Get a decent used handgun or shotgun. Shotguns are a bit easier to use but the whole not aiming thing is completely false as the spread isn't huge in HD ranges. The best HD gun imo is an AR15 which you can get a decent one for close to $600 (there is a sale right on an Aero AC15 for $500 which is a fantastic gun and is normally $675).
Posted on 12/25/16 at 6:50 pm to Crawfish Anytime
I have a 12 gauge loaded with 00 buck where I can get to it in the living room and a .357 in my nightstand. It all depends on your comfort level.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 7:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
I know, that's why I recommended a handgun or shotgun (leaning shotgun). An AR is if he stretches his budget a little bit. I only mentioned the AR because it is a phenomenal platform for home defense.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 7:42 pm to Crawfish Anytime
Get a 870 for around $280 and then buy a replacement 18" mossberg barrel for it, they can be had for ~$90. They are really easy to swap out so you have a home defense weapon but you can take it hunting also if you want.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 8:17 pm to Crawfish Anytime
870 or Taurus Judge, either one will have them hurting and running for cover
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:13 pm to Crawfish Anytime
Youth pump 20 gauge shotgun.
Short enough for inside work. Pump shotgun for obvious reason. 20 gauge still plenty of death there. Wife can handle it.
You can get them for unreal cheap. Find one with capable of a tube extension for the extra carry capacity.
Short enough for inside work. Pump shotgun for obvious reason. 20 gauge still plenty of death there. Wife can handle it.
You can get them for unreal cheap. Find one with capable of a tube extension for the extra carry capacity.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 11:47 pm to Crawfish Anytime
If you are in the Baton Rouge area, feel free to contact me about doing some basic safety training or a full length concealed handgun course with a group. Shoot me an email bigapple828@aim.com.
You need to figure out if you want a long gun or handgun but if you're starting from scratch with no formal training, it would benefit you immensely to get some before starting your search. If you don't want to pursue formal training (which isn't the best course of action) but still want some instruction then find a friend who is a hunter and get him/her to show you the basics.
Don't be prideful and go into getting trained with an open mind. It's going to be new and different and you may look dumb at first but everyone has to start somewhere. The more repetitions you take the sharper your skills will get.
Best of luck.
You need to figure out if you want a long gun or handgun but if you're starting from scratch with no formal training, it would benefit you immensely to get some before starting your search. If you don't want to pursue formal training (which isn't the best course of action) but still want some instruction then find a friend who is a hunter and get him/her to show you the basics.
Don't be prideful and go into getting trained with an open mind. It's going to be new and different and you may look dumb at first but everyone has to start somewhere. The more repetitions you take the sharper your skills will get.
Best of luck.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 5:07 am to bapple
I'm thinking I want to get a hand gun because it is easier to store and easier to handle. Am I wrong to assume that?Also, someone mentioned trying certain guns out. How do you do that? Can you go to the gun range and they have some you can try? I live close to a shooting range. Thanks for all the helpful tips!
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:26 am to Crawfish Anytime
.410 Judge or a double barrel Mossberg
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:50 am to Crawfish Anytime
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I'm thinking I want to get a hand gun because it is easier to store and easier to handle. Am I wrong to assume that?
Not really. Handguns tend to be cheaper and their small size make them handy in quite a few situations. I prefer long guns, particularly a carbine for HD but cost maybe an issue especially since you starting out.
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Also, someone mentioned trying certain guns out. How do you do that?
Some ranges offer firearms you can rent when you go there. Check with your local ranges and ask if they offer rentals.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 11:50 am to Crawfish Anytime
OP:
1. As was mentioned, you need training. It's not a matter of learning how to operate the controls on the weapon. It's a matter of learning the safest, most efficient way(s) of operating the gun, and getting enough repetitions to be able to handle the the weapon effectively under stress.
2. Please ignore every recommendation that you get a Taurus Judge. It's a POS that is marketed as if it's the tool that can handle any/every threat. It isn't.
Irrespective of your decision on handgun vs. long gun you need to get the most reliable weapon you can find. Some makes are known to be more likely to go TU.
3. You need to seriously consider the pros & cons of a pump shotgun. The pros are that most are super reliable and, with the right load, will stop an attacker far better than a handgun.
The con has to do with repetitions.
Lots of folks on this board have so many repetitions with pumps that they can operate them from muscle memory. They assume everyone/anyone will be able to operate the pump equally well.
However, lots of law enforcement agencies have learned that officers who lack enough reps to build muscle memory (neural pathways) tend to "shortstroke" the pump under stress. It's not a matter of learning "how to do it" -- it's a matter of reaching a level where you "can't F it up." You don't want to be "that guy."
4. Whatever weapon you choose -- it will be incumbent on you to become proficient with it. Firearms are less complicated than a violin, but they're more complicated than a screwdriver. Don't fall into the trap of deciding you're "all safe" just because you bought a gun. Learn to shoot it, then learn how to fight with it.
Edited to currect redneck spelling.
1. As was mentioned, you need training. It's not a matter of learning how to operate the controls on the weapon. It's a matter of learning the safest, most efficient way(s) of operating the gun, and getting enough repetitions to be able to handle the the weapon effectively under stress.
2. Please ignore every recommendation that you get a Taurus Judge. It's a POS that is marketed as if it's the tool that can handle any/every threat. It isn't.
Irrespective of your decision on handgun vs. long gun you need to get the most reliable weapon you can find. Some makes are known to be more likely to go TU.
3. You need to seriously consider the pros & cons of a pump shotgun. The pros are that most are super reliable and, with the right load, will stop an attacker far better than a handgun.
The con has to do with repetitions.
Lots of folks on this board have so many repetitions with pumps that they can operate them from muscle memory. They assume everyone/anyone will be able to operate the pump equally well.
However, lots of law enforcement agencies have learned that officers who lack enough reps to build muscle memory (neural pathways) tend to "shortstroke" the pump under stress. It's not a matter of learning "how to do it" -- it's a matter of reaching a level where you "can't F it up." You don't want to be "that guy."
4. Whatever weapon you choose -- it will be incumbent on you to become proficient with it. Firearms are less complicated than a violin, but they're more complicated than a screwdriver. Don't fall into the trap of deciding you're "all safe" just because you bought a gun. Learn to shoot it, then learn how to fight with it.
Edited to currect redneck spelling.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/26/16 at 12:05 pm to Crawfish Anytime
Posted on 12/26/16 at 12:19 pm to dawg23
Thanks! That's some great advice!
Posted on 12/26/16 at 12:32 pm to Crawfish Anytime
870 12 gauge pump w/ 20 inch barrel.
Loaded with a slug followed by buckshot.
With a Semi-Auto handgun for backup.
Loaded with a slug followed by buckshot.
With a Semi-Auto handgun for backup.
This post was edited on 12/26/16 at 12:34 pm
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