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re: GI commercial fisherman sentenced to 20 years w/o parole for 6th dwi
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:48 am to AubieALUMdvm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:48 am to AubieALUMdvm
No, it is because he fails to learn.
He is too soft and weak to control himself. He also has decided he doesn't GAS about other people.
Valium, meth , and alcohol-lock that bitch up and throw away the key.
He is very fortunate I wasn't on that jury.
He is too soft and weak to control himself. He also has decided he doesn't GAS about other people.
Valium, meth , and alcohol-lock that bitch up and throw away the key.
He is very fortunate I wasn't on that jury.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:50 am to baldona
It is not just the drinking/DUI. Add the meth and Valium in there as well.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 11:53 am to redneck
6th DWI? Should have been life in prison IMO
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:18 pm to redneck
A 16 year old boy was hit in the head by the anchor of the boat he was driving and knocked out cold. After that he started having seizures every now and then. One day, while sitting on his 4 wheeler he had a seizure while drinking out a coke bottle and partially swallowed it, and hit his head on ground. Luckily his cousin was there and had ems training. He was rushed to hospital and had to spend 2 weeks recovering and running tests. So what I am trying to say is someone did get hurt in this incident.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 12:54 pm to AubieALUMdvm
And most people don't get hit by drunk drivers. I guess you'd rather people shoot your family and get out in 5 years though.
So this guy becomes institutionalized, doesn't get help for his addictions, and gets out in 20 years and commit a heinous crime that he learned in the penitentiary.
Again, I'm not excusing what he did, but the punishment far outweighs the crime
Eta: Maybe your thoughts behind the judicial and penal systems are the old school bass ackwards ways. It is obviously working so well. Let's just lock up everyone for everything
So this guy becomes institutionalized, doesn't get help for his addictions, and gets out in 20 years and commit a heinous crime that he learned in the penitentiary.
Again, I'm not excusing what he did, but the punishment far outweighs the crime
Eta: Maybe your thoughts behind the judicial and penal systems are the old school bass ackwards ways. It is obviously working so well. Let's just lock up everyone for everything
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:03 pm to Hammertime
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Just because you had one unfortunate incident
Holy shite, this has to be a troll.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:11 pm to shiftworker
Nope. Emotions cloud people's judgment in almost all aspects of life. See everything in today's society that you hate. Those are all based off of emotions and not logic. It is what it is
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:12 pm to shiftworker
It is a troll - he knows he doesn't have to worry about checking people's hands if he's messing with people on an Internet forum
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:13 pm to Hammertime
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punishment far outweighs the crime
No it doesn't. They guy won't stop what he's doing. Can you not see that?
Last year a guy that was drunk with no drivers license crossed the median on Hwy 78 hit a car head on. This car had a grandmother and 2 girls that were either sophomores or juniors in high school. They were on their way to the beach.
The dude had 6 or 7 DUIs. Nothing that happened on the previous DUIs help those girls or their families at all.
Sometimes you just have to realize that people are broken and there isn't any fixing them.
So lets say that this guy served 3 yrs, 5yrs or whatever, gets out, gets hammered, and then kills an entire family.
Who's fault is it. The guy for drinking and driving or the state for not punishing him more severely?
Hell if it were up to me, jails would be pure hell. Nothing like they are now.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:18 pm to Hammertime
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And most people don't get hit by drunk drivers. I guess you'd rather people shoot your family and get out in 5 years though.
Who the frick said that? You are making up strawman arguments because your position is stupid. Most people don't get their family randomly shot and have the perp get out in 5 years. Derpa derp.
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So this guy becomes institutionalized, doesn't get help for his addictions, and gets out in 20 years and commit a heinous crime that he learned in the penitentiary.
Yes, and he deserves every bit of it. He had at least 5 times to seek help. He was probably given treatment as a sentence as some point, but he keeps fricking up and endangering society.
quote:
Again, I'm not excusing what he did, but the punishment far outweighs the crime
bullshite. If you want to champion overzealous sentencing, feel free to go fight for guys spending more than that in prison for having a gun and a few ounces of pot at the same time.
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ta: Maybe your thoughts behind the judicial and penal systems are the old school bass ackwards ways. It is obviously working so well. Let's just lock up everyone for everything
Again, you take some bullshite stance to the extreme. Nobody said anything near "lock up everyone for everything." This ONE guy is not "everyone" and his habitual drunk-driving and endangering society is not "everything."
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:19 pm to bbvdd
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So lets say that this guy served 3 yrs, 5yrs or whatever, gets out, gets hammered, and then kills an entire family.
Who's fault is it?
Hammertime
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:23 pm to Jester
Hammertime is a fool if he doesn't think he received court-ordered treatment for his drug abuse after one of the other five DUI sentences.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:52 pm to Hammertime
•In 2014, 9,967 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.1
•Of the 1,070 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2014, 209 (19%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.1
•Of the 209 child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2014, over half (116) were riding in the vehicle with the alcohol-impaired driver.1
Shoot, I agree.
Lets give the old boy 20 years to get his shite straight. (help w/ his addictions)
He'll get a DUI 3 months after his release.
•Of the 1,070 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2014, 209 (19%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.1
•Of the 209 child passengers ages 14 and younger who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes in 2014, over half (116) were riding in the vehicle with the alcohol-impaired driver.1
Shoot, I agree.
Lets give the old boy 20 years to get his shite straight. (help w/ his addictions)
He'll get a DUI 3 months after his release.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:55 pm to baldona
quote:He was operating a motorized vessel (boat), according to the link in the OP.
I'd also push the DA to go after whoever the heck is letting him drive their vehicles. You should not be able to own or drive a vehicle within 5 or 10 years of getting your 3rd DUI. If you own a vehicle without a DL, you are going to drive it. SO you shouldn't be able to register one in your name. If you let someone else drive your car without a DL it should be against some form of law. Someone was letting him drive their vehicles a lot.
Posted on 5/9/16 at 1:59 pm to specchaser
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Think about 6 DWIs for a minute...SIX.
And I'm sure he got caught every time. Dude is a fricking menace.
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I'ts just pure luck no one has died or been seriously injured.
That we know about.
And if he were to get out in 7 years and kill somebody while loaded everybody would be screaming about the system "not working."
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:37 pm to Jester
You're trying to argue that locking up people for exorbitant amounts of time for every crime is better than being proactive. Sorry, but I'd like to stop things before they happen, and what was going on in this guy's life a la the regular judicial system wasn't working.
Jailing people works so well to prevent crime
I suggest you guys look into alternative forms of policing and sentencing instead of bitching about stuff that isn't working. It's like banging your head on a wall every time you walk past, and wondering why it still hurts after a month
Jailing people works so well to prevent crime
I suggest you guys look into alternative forms of policing and sentencing instead of bitching about stuff that isn't working. It's like banging your head on a wall every time you walk past, and wondering why it still hurts after a month
This post was edited on 5/9/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:39 pm to Hammertime
Obviously the court-ordered treatment this guy received as one of the conditions of his other five DUIs worked. Let's try it again!
Posted on 5/9/16 at 2:41 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Maybe the concept is too hard for people to understand, so I'll try to dumb it down. If you need something done and what you're doing doesn't work, try something else
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