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re: Getting into the cattle business

Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:49 pm to
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Alpaca for the mother fricking win


anyone have any experience with alpaca? a buddy of mine and i half joke about getting into the alpaca business.
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:51 pm to
Alpaca wool socks are pretty warm
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:53 pm to
Alright the sire is concealed weapon


Dam is riverforks lil pistol I cant find an image of her but the bull is 18 months old 37 ttt. He wants $700 for half interest. I just don't have a clue what the real value of it would be but i told him take a pic of it this weekend and i will bump the thread.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/13/14 at 5:02 pm to
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concealed weapon


He is also over 80" tip to tip if I remember corectly. He's a good bull...

The thing is the eyeball test of the actual bull he is buying. Not all good looking bulls throw good looking bulls. And the ones that do don't throw good looking bulls everytime...

I'm guilty of buying something for the pedigree, then questioning myself after the fact when I see a better looking cow with an "inferior" pedigree.

Again, it's about what you like. If he likes him, go for it. $700 for half interest is not high. I'd offer $500 if $700 was the original asking price though.
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 5:37 pm to
Well my son changed his mind on the bull and decided to buy one outright. It's a JP Rio Grande son. I can't remember the dam s name but that's her in the pic. Hee is also headed to the Hudson Valentine sale in bowling green next weekend so no telling what he buys there

Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

anyone have any experience with alpaca?


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Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:28 pm to
I got 8-10 acres I was looking to throw some goats on. Theres a Doc I work with that sells his goats to the indian/Islamic whatever they call themselves and makes pretty good... wasn't tryin to be racist...just couldn't think of the correct PC term. He also eats the goats...if you think about it...basically same type of meat as a deer.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:37 pm to
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Any tips are welcome


Put a gun to your head. Really. I will never own another cow or horse again. Ten time shitter then owning a dog. 15 acres is about good for 1 or 2 cows. Do you have farm equipment? You 're going to need some.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:46 pm to
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Theres a Doc I work with that sells his goats to the indian/Islamic whatever they call themselves and makes pretty good
Old saying "I've know rich men who owned goats but no men who've GOTTEN rich by owning goats."


[quote He also eats the goats...if you think about it...basically same type of meat as a deer.[/quote] Bar-b-qued goat is one of my fav's.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:47 pm to
Meh. A horse ain't bad if its just a pasture pet
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20718 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 6:55 pm to
We used to have a nice size herd of cows back in the 80's.

We still have the barns, fences, and hay fields so after some repair work me and the old man are going to get a few this summer and raise them up to slaughter later on
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:34 am to
Read the farm market bulletin

Always happens when cows are high---folks get in.

How many do you plan to buy?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 10:51 am to
I've been hoping you would return with a response...

quote:

JP Rio Grande son


That's a very good choice.

quote:

Hudson Valentine sale in bowling green next weekend so no telling what he buys there


He better take a bag of cash. I don't participate in the sales because the prices get really high when you cram a bunch of longhorn enthusiast into the same room bidding on top of the line cows.

I've gotten most of my seed stock from people close to me. I don't claim to have/raise the best of the best. I just have a few to mess with, and most of my calves end up getting run through the sale barn or sold to some team ropers I know. Every year, I keep 1 or 2 of our best heifers and replace the lowest cow on the totem pole quality wise.

Here is a video of my cows I took driving to the feed troughs yesterday...
This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12535 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:15 am to
"Tax Write Off"
Posted by angus1838
Southeast Alabama
Member since Jan 2012
923 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:24 am to
Fine looking bunch for longhorns. Just kidding man I am having a hard time after raising angus, brangus, and charlais for so many years looking out and seeing horns I actually always hated longhorns but with his herd and excitement growing it has gotten me kind of excited too. I gave him 2500 to take to the sale but i really don't know what to expect with that little but we will see. Also it was too late the other evening to get a pic of drag irons son but when i take him next thursday i will try my best to get one
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:30 am to
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"Tax Write Off"


Exactly.

Besides the property tax breaks, you don't pay sales tax on feed, or any expinditure for the farm. And then it is still write offable.

That said, write off doesn't mean free, it's just a small percentage break from the overall costs. The key is selling a few cows and round bales of hay to cover costs, then it's classified as a business. If not, it's classified as a hooby, and you lose your farm status and tax credits.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 11:35 am to
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I actually always hated longhorns but with his herd and excitement growing it has gotten me kind of excited too.


It's easy to catch the fever. We don't have a "big" place, so you might as well raise something unique.

Similar to yall's situation, I bought 2 heifers and a bull in 2009, as soon as they had calves, my mom had to get in the business and she bought some more heifers.

I think we have 21 head now... I just sold a bunch a of last years calves, and they just started calving again.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4092 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:01 pm to
I was up around Oil City the other day and somebody has some cattle that look like longhorns but the horns are super thick coming out from the head. Didn't look like those but really freaking long. Any idea what those are?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4092 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:06 pm to
May have answered my own question with the googles.

Looks like some kind of watusi cross.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/28/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

some cattle that look like longhorns but the horns are super thick coming out from the head.
quote:

Any idea what those are?


Watusi, probably.



African cattle of Kings. Wars have been fought on the dark continent over them in the past. I think the first ones were imported into the states in the 1970's.
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