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re: Cottonmouth bites MS boy on the face
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:53 pm to baldona
Posted on 8/1/17 at 9:53 pm to baldona
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How the hell is antivenom that expensive? Common sense capitalism would seem like they could get it cheaper?
I would think most of its expense is from how it is gathered. Doesn't most antivenom actually come from the venom of very dangerous snakes?
But yea that price is still very steep.
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:41 pm to bapple
Imagine how intensive it is to collect, then manufacture, not to mention FDA trials and scrutiny, lasttly it's not like they are using 100,000 vials of this stuff each month. Low market useage, high cost to produce. And then of course the arse raping mark up.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 10:59 pm to Boston911
A neighbor at our lease near Belmont TX was bit by a coral snake. She ended up being air lifted to a hospital in San Antonio. The anti venom caused heart failure but she pulled through it all. The bill was over $200k. This was about 8 yrs ago. Fewer hospitals store anti venom for some reason in recent years.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 11:06 pm to Nawlens Gator
Coral snake antivenin is not being made any more
When it runs out. U will die
When it runs out. U will die
Posted on 8/2/17 at 6:50 am to choupiquesushi
We need someone on here to donate their services.
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For decades Bill Haast, who died this June at the age of 100, milked about 100 snakes a day with his bare hands, and in 1948 began injecting himself with increasing doses of diluted cobra venom in order to develop his own immune resistance. At the time of his death (not caused by snakebite), he'd survived 172 bites from many of the world's deadliest snakes, including a blue krait, a king cobra and a Pakistani pit viper. He flew around the world to donate transfusions of his antibody-rich blood to treat 21 snakebite victims. Venezuela made him an honorary citizen after he traveled into the jungle to donate blood to a young snake-bitten boy. According to his wife Nancy, all 21 patients survived.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:19 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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storing preparing and administering? Can't be much more than a refrigerator, a syringe, and shaking the damn vial if they have antivenin in remote Africa and South America. What a sham, 20k is probably with a 19.5k profit
Its because we live in the US and get screwed on our drug prices like no other country.
I used to carry anti venom in Central America. I paid $1400 for 24 vials that made 12 vials. No refrigeration needed, you mixed one vial of powder with one vial of liquid.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:35 am to Sparkplug#1
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storing preparing and administering? Can't be much more than a refrigerator, a syringe, and shaking the damn vial if they have antivenin in remote Africa and South America. What a sham, 20k is probably with a 19.5k profit
Its because we live in the US and get screwed on our drug prices like no other country.
I used to carry anti venom in Central America. I paid $1400 for 24 vials that made 12 vials. No refrigeration needed, you mixed one vial of powder with one vial of liquid.
because insurance co's here will pay it
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:40 am to Ace Midnight
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and are highly aggressive
Link?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:42 am to jorconalx
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Link?
I've dealt with them.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 7:45 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 7:54 am to Ace Midnight
I don't see wher it says they are aggressive
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:07 am to Boston911
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Imagine how intensive it is to collect, then manufacture, not to mention FDA trials and scrutiny, lasttly it's not like they are using 100,000 vials of this stuff each month. Low market useage, high cost to produce. And then of course the arse raping mark up.
Pretty much this. It's a niche market, without enough profit to really interest the big drug companies.
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Coral snake antivenin is not being made any more When it runs out. U will die
In October, 2016, Pfizer announced that its coral snake antivenom (formerly Wyeth’s) was back in production and available to order
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:25 am to Contender54
Damn, can you imagine being 8 years old with a cottonmouth hanging off your face?? I would've died right there.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:08 am to baldona
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This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 11:16 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:28 am to Teague
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In October, 2016, Pfizer announced that its coral snake antivenom (formerly Wyeth’s) was back in production and available to order
Whew. My folks have killed corral snakes in their yard/pool this summer.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:38 am to Ace Midnight
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I say again, frick cottonmouths
Agree.....and you don't have to do anything for them to WANT to bite you......they're like "frick you.....I think I'll bite you for the hell of it."
Posted on 8/2/17 at 9:53 am to Nawlens Gator
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The bill was over $200k.
And folks on here think we should let venomous snakes live? I say i'm making a good investment killing all those bastards.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:17 am to SportTiger1
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And folks on here think we should let venomous snakes live? I say i'm making a good investment killing all those bastards.
This is such a dumb argument. I could say the same thing about dogs, cows, horses, cars, electricity, deer, and vending machines, all of which kill more people in the US than snakes.
The truth is, you have an irrational fear that won't permit you to see the value of preserving the natural world. And, assuming you have insurance, you're not paying the $200k. Pay your deductible, curse your incredible bad luck that led to you being one of the few to ever get bitten, and move on.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:27 am to Teague
Nah...just killem.
ETA - Honestly though, what are the benefits to Rattlers, Cottonmounts, and Copperheads?
I honestly am curious.
I kill every wasp and spider i see as well. They dont kill very many people either. I chose to drive a car because the benefits out weigh the risks. I can somewhat control my pet dog.
ETA - Honestly though, what are the benefits to Rattlers, Cottonmounts, and Copperheads?
I honestly am curious.
I kill every wasp and spider i see as well. They dont kill very many people either. I chose to drive a car because the benefits out weigh the risks. I can somewhat control my pet dog.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 10:31 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:51 am to SportTiger1
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ETA - Honestly though, what are the benefits to Rattlers, Cottonmounts, and Copperheads? I honestly am curious.
They have a place in the ecosystem just like every other animal. They eat certain things and certain things eat them.
Plus, I, personally, have no desire for nature to be like a walk through a manicured park. The "dangerous" animals out there make it more interesting. Just like people enjoy seeing wolves at Yellowstone, or bears, or tigers in india. It's an iconic part of the wild to me.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:09 am to jorconalx
They aren't "aggressive" per se (they aren't going to chase after you), but they are known to stand their ground as opposed to most other snakes' first instinct being to attempt to flee from humans.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 11:09 am
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