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re: Congress will not pass weapons ban
Posted on 1/14/13 at 6:41 pm to stewie
Posted on 1/14/13 at 6:41 pm to stewie
I put this in another thread but I think it belongs here as well regarding the average person's concern about potential legislative restrictions.
I went to my local Academy this morning before it opened. I was one of 2 dozen people waiting for the doors to open. They had 3 ARs that sold as soon as guys reached the counter. There were 2 leftover 20 round .223 Promags that 2 guys snatched quick. The limited 223 ammo they had was gone in 5 minutes. There was some 9mm, a good bit of .40 and .45. I didn't buy anything myself. I was hoping they had gotten some PMAGS or bulk 9mm on the truck last night, but none to be had.
I would safely say that the hysteria is still out there though. Most people were friendly and talkative, but there were some who were blocking aisles and what not because they were worried you would grab what they were looking at
I went to my local Academy this morning before it opened. I was one of 2 dozen people waiting for the doors to open. They had 3 ARs that sold as soon as guys reached the counter. There were 2 leftover 20 round .223 Promags that 2 guys snatched quick. The limited 223 ammo they had was gone in 5 minutes. There was some 9mm, a good bit of .40 and .45. I didn't buy anything myself. I was hoping they had gotten some PMAGS or bulk 9mm on the truck last night, but none to be had.
I would safely say that the hysteria is still out there though. Most people were friendly and talkative, but there were some who were blocking aisles and what not because they were worried you would grab what they were looking at
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Posted on 1/14/13 at 6:45 pm to Hammertime
quote:
The 2nd was important enough to be the actual second amendment, not the third or tenth or fourteenth, it is the second. Far too many people have zero respect for that
Posted on 1/14/13 at 6:48 pm to El Josey Wales
quote:
The 2nd was important enough to be the actual second amendment, not the third or tenth or fourteenth, it is the second. Far too many people have zero respect for that
Well said
Posted on 1/14/13 at 7:17 pm to stewie
quote:
Trained military force > armed citizens
Just curious what do you think happens to the trained military force after they leave the military?
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:21 pm to hypnos
quote:
Just curious what do you think happens to the trained military force after they leave the military?
Sorry...
Active (organized, highly trained, with state-the-art arms) military force > armed civilians (with all types of back grounds)
Posted on 1/14/13 at 8:51 pm to stewie
Even the majority of the active ones will not fire on their own people if so ordered. Especially if it is ordered by a CIC that the vast majority of militarily personnel do not like.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 9:36 pm to DrTyger
I agree that the vast majority of military hate Democrats, but they also want to keep their jobs/benefits/honor and will do whatever their immediate superior tells them to do.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 9:38 pm to stewie
20 million pissed off people who know the land > 2 million people questioning their own actions
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:28 pm to stewie
quote:Do you know how fricking stupid you are? I assume not. Do I need to explain it to you?
Sorry...
Active (organized, highly trained, with state-the-art arms) military force > armed civilians (with all types of back grounds)
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:35 pm to USMCTiger03
New York just passes a major gun bill...
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:39 pm to El Josey Wales
quote:
The 2nd was important enough to be the actual second amendment, not the third or tenth or fourteenth, it is the second. Far too many people have zero respect for that
I'm pretty sure that the USSC ruled once that the order of the amendments has no bearing on their importance.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:46 pm to weagle99
Well I'm not the SC and the 2nd is near the top in my mind. 
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:49 pm to Tbobby
quote:
I agree that the vast majority of military hate Democrats, but they also want to keep their jobs/benefits/honor and will do whatever their immediate superior tells them to do.
While this is true, it is only true to an extent. Also, immediate superiors are not immune to the same morals/beliefs. This sort of thing is pretty prevalent throughout history. When a country becomes divided, so does it's military.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:50 pm to stewie
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Trained military force > armed citizens
Signed,
British Army + Hessians
U.S. Army in Vietnam
Soviet Army in Afghanistan
Plus a whole bunch of governments that feel to communist insurgents.
I know I am missing a ton, just the first few that popped in my head.
And yes, I know there are plenty of instances where trained military forces won over armed civilians, but the point is that you cannot make automatically assume that it will happen.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 10:57 pm to stewie
quote:
stewie
I'm surprised you still comment here.
You always seem to be barking the wrong way, up the wrong tree.
But hey I guess everyone has an opinion, even if some are more misinformed than others.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:02 pm to wickowick
quote:
New York just passes a major gun bill...
The northeast is fricked locally.
NewYork
All PRE '94 magazines (they have had a ban since then) over 10 rounds are banned and must be sold out of state within 1 year.
Assault Weapon definitions expanded. Some guns banned by name.
Background checks for ammo with records kept.
High volume ammo purchases get reported to law enforcement.
Online ammo transactions much go through an FFL
All ammo must go through FFL.
You can keep your ten round mags, but you can only load 7 rounds
No new mags over 7 rounds.
Bunch of other stuff.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:02 pm to weagle99
quote:Those people are retards. Judges and lawyers are what allow this country to become the way it is today, on a downward spiral filled with worthless idiots that get paid to do nothing.
I'm pretty sure that the USSC ruled once that the order of the amendments has no bearing on their importance.
It was the second one the poineers of this country thought of, so it must be at the top of their list of importance. If it wasnt, they would've thought of it much later. Supreme court is wrong. They absolutely CAN be wrong because they have opposing rulings all of the time. Hell, they cant even settle 100% on the legality of anything today. It is a majority, not right or wrong.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:05 pm to joe.liberst
Federally, I am worried about an import ban on firearms and ammo.
Most of the 5.56 I buy is Prvi Partizan and IMI. Prices would get insane with only domestic.
5.45 would be even worse off, and 7.62x39 would be right behind it.
Most of the 5.56 I buy is Prvi Partizan and IMI. Prices would get insane with only domestic.
5.45 would be even worse off, and 7.62x39 would be right behind it.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:08 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
Congress will not pass weapons ban
quote:
Sorry...
Active (organized, highly trained, with state-the-art arms) military force > armed civilians (with all types of back grounds)
Do you know how fricking stupid you are? I assume not. Do I need to explain it to you?
This...It's not like we'd line up across a grassy field and fire away. It'd be guerilla warfare. Hit and runs. Not to mention the sheer numbers.
Posted on 1/14/13 at 11:10 pm to TigerDeacon
quote:
Army + Hessians
U.S. Army in Vietnam
Soviet Army in Afghanistan
Plus a whole bunch of governments that feel to communist insurgents.
I know I am missing a ton, just the first few that popped in my head.
And yes, I know there are plenty of instances where trained military forces won over armed civilians, but the point is that you cannot make automatically assume that it will happen.
US colonists v. The British Empire.
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