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re: Bass boats for marsh fishing

Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:42 am to
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7374 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:42 am to
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80+ Causeway run


Fuuuuuck that. I got nervous just watching that video.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2067 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:42 am to
I was fishing a tournament in West G Bay 2 years ago and heard a loud motor coming from about a mile behind us. It was throwing up a good size rooster tail and went through Green's cut into the ICW and then he really hit the gas. YOu could hear him hauling arse and then all of a sudden it was a loud roar and then nothing. We knew something wasn't right, so we reeled in and hauled arse through the cut into the ICW expecting to find a dead person floating. Luckily, the guy got thrown but was alright but he destroyed his SCB Stingray. It was filled with water sitting on the bank and all of the seats and hatches were floating in the channel. The top of his Merc 300 pro xs cowling was gone. Not ripped off at the point where it connects to the lower, half of the top was ripped off. Tore up the fiberglass in a few spots also. He said he was doing 75-80 and when he passed a tugboat, hit the wake and caught air underneath and it threw him. Craziest thing I have seen on the water.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:54 am
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:13 am to
Years (many years) ago Allison made their bass boats with no carpet. Nothing to do with marsh fishing -- he didn't want the extra weight to slow the boats down (Allisons were, and still are, some of the fastest bass boats made).

Anyhow, bass fishermen got tired of busting their arses on icy/frosty front & rear decks. Darris Allison gave in and added carpeting on their bass boats to eliminate that issue.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:33 am to
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80+ Causeway run


too much wobble for me to go 80.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3732 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:55 am to
Fished fourchon marsh with my 18'9 triton with no jack plate. Tide went out and I couldn't get on top. Ended up pushing about 100 yards in my boxers (in January). My dad's 18' cc drafts less that my bass boat.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:20 am to
Try crossing Barataria bay in 20knot wind in one of those Texas flats boats, you will feel it for a week
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1637 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 1:26 pm to
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80+ Causeway run


He will be back from the east at some point and I'd bet his next SCB will be even faster.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:14 pm to


would fish

I wanted a Haynie badly when I was still in SLA. If I made it back and dumped all the toys from current hobbies, I'd look into getting one. Maybe it was just from being so slow in my Ranger Banshee, but I seriously had the desire to overcompensate and run one of these bad boys.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:29 pm to
That thing looks like it sits heavy in the water.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
Yeaaaaa

No matter how you try to spin it, it's still an ultra light shallow draft boat. It's still going to beat the ever living shite out of you no matter how you design the hull.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 3:07 pm to
More reasons than I can count.

1. Marsh bass are in brackish water which WILL DESTROY the hardware and trailers usually used on bass boats. Get that Carbon Steel trailer the frick out of here, it'll be done in a year\ or two.

2. Carpet... LA marshes are full of mud and people catch more fish, particularly slimy arse trout, which makes cleaning it impossible. This leads me to the next problem.

3. We fish an estuary. Estuaries are much more capable of reproducing bass at a rate that isn't sustainable on man made lakes/ reservoirs and there are environmental factors that insure marsh bass are rarely over 5lbs. As such, we catch and keep way more fish which means carpet sucks and that live well becomes basically useless. Where to put the 120 qt fish chest?

4. 80 MPH with no brakes... Genius in a marsh where the tide ebbs and flows, old oil equipment, pipes, logs, reefs, and flats lurk at many corners.
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 3:21 pm to
"bay boat that drafts a lot"



My 20' Alum Bay a Boat drafts 7" tops . And yes the answer is Carpet
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 3:33 pm to
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My 20' Alum Bay a Boat drafts 7" tops


Jesus Christ. Here we go...
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Jesus Christ. Here we go...


Posted by Mmackl1
Member since May 2011
234 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

1. Marsh bass are in brackish water which WILL DESTROY the hardware and trailers usually used on bass boats. Get that Carbon Steel trailer the frick out of here, it'll be done in a year\ or two.

2. Carpet... LA marshes are full of mud and people catch more fish, particularly slimy arse trout, which makes cleaning it impossible. This leads me to the next problem.

3. We fish an estuary. Estuaries are much more capable of reproducing bass at a rate that isn't sustainable on man made lakes/ reservoirs and there are environmental factors that insure marsh bass are rarely over 5lbs. As such, we catch and keep way more fish which means carpet sucks and that live well becomes basically useless. Where to put the 120 qt fish chest?

4. 80 MPH with no brakes... Genius in a marsh where the tide ebbs and flows, old oil equipment, pipes, logs, reefs, and flats lurk at many corners.


1) Launches in places like Venice, Berwick, Sweetwater and Bayou Segnette are mostly freshwater.

2) I find it a bigger pain keeping the black mold and bloodstains off the white interior of our bayboat than flipping slimy fish straight from the water to the igloo in our bass boat. Plus foot per foot a bayboat has a whole lot more fiberglass to wipe down than a bass boat

3)120 qt fits perfectly between front deck and back deck of our Skeeter and makes a nice bridge when a Red takes you for a stroll around the boat.

4) All of our boats have a variable speed motor.

However I do enjoy standing behind the console more than sitting when up on plane and cruising but the bass boat doesnt get pushed around like a windsock as bad as the bay boat does when using the trolling motor.
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 6:52 pm to
Ranger makes the INTRACOASTAL COMANCHE in two models. It's a bass boat built with no carpet. I think legend makes one too.
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:00 pm to
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1) Launches in places like Venice, Berwick, Sweetwater and Bayou Segnette are mostly freshwater.


Sometimes, but it doesn't take much and every place you mentioned becomes extremely salty some times of the year.

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2) I find it a bigger pain keeping the black mold and bloodstains off the white interior of our bayboat than flipping slimy fish straight from the water to the igloo in our bass boat. Plus foot per foot a bayboat has a whole lot more fiberglass to wipe down than a bass boat


LOL, I don't want to sound like a dick but just no. What do you do when you put that slimy carpet in the garage and missed a spot? Your wife OK with this? Why aren't offshore boats fitted with carpet?

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3)120 qt fits perfectly between front deck and back deck of our Skeeter and makes a nice bridge when a Red takes you for a stroll around the boat.


Fair enough but you're still struggling for room in a comparably sized almost anything else.

quote:

4) All of our boats have a variable speed motor.


Meh, fair enough, speed is always in the control of the captain...

It's a question worth asking but bass boats simply aren't best suited for marsh fishing...
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 7:04 pm
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:14 pm to
IMO a bass boat is perfectly suitable for places I consider to be marsh. I generally fish bass and reds in the marsh. If I'm going to be in bays or along the coast fishing for specks I'll be in my bay boat and using an anchor. Since I generally end up having to fish on windy days the high sides work best in open water with high waves and the low sides when trolling canal banks protected by the canes.

ETA: I'm OCD about bringing a slimy fish into the bass boat, it goes staight into the icechest, hook, line and sinker. Net too if we used one. Better if it fall back in the water than in the boat
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 4/29/16 at 7:30 pm to
You bring up some decent points but let's be honest, your points have been considered and the result is the flats boat...
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