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re: Assumption Parish sink hole environmental impact: Links in OP
Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:38 pm to Boats n Hose
Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:38 pm to Boats n Hose
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Most of the people I grew up hunting with only hunt for meat. They could care less how big the rack on a buck is. These are all South LA people. I am the same way. I really dont give two shits how big a rack is, I just hunt for the meat
And these hunters are migrating north at a record rate. Like saltwater intrusion they do more damage than good
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:39 pm to Hammertime
If you kill the young bucks you won't see big bucks though.
One day I'll have a large area of hunting land I can manage how I want. Until then I'll just keep doing what I do I guess
One day I'll have a large area of hunting land I can manage how I want. Until then I'll just keep doing what I do I guess
Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:41 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:You said a mouthful there. Frikin' coonasses.
And these hunters are migrating north at a record rate. Like saltwater intrusion they do more damage than good
Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:46 pm to Nodust
Nope!! this one is a caveren that is already full of brine. This brine is not just salt water it has a much higher salt content. The caveren can collapse and will make a deep lake. It depends on the caveren profile on wide it could end up being. Lake Peigneur was a salt mine with empty tunnels and caverens. It appears someone screwed up using the well. You have to be careful not to overleach it or this kind of thing can happen. They have companies throughout that area that use saltdomes for storing different types of hydrocarbons. The salt type determines what can be stored in a particiluar dome. If was an old well that had failed you would have a cone of sand form on the surface, if someone had injected something at the same depth. The liquid would travel up the old casing to the surface.. This is all just a WAG, but did stay at a Holiday Express once.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 2:57 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:That's all of that oil spill money making it's way up to Illusion's and staying the weekend
And these hunters are migrating north at a record rate. Like saltwater intrusion they do more damage than good
I have hunted in Woodville and St. Francisville and definitely dont have the money for that. You could buy a small trailer home with skirting for what it costs to be in some of those clubs.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 3:04 pm to PoppaTiger
Thanks. Very informative.
I know very little about salt domes and the what ifs. You cleared up a lot for me.
I know very little about salt domes and the what ifs. You cleared up a lot for me.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 3:27 pm to Nodust
The one somewhat good thing is that brine is significantly heavier than water, so fresh water should sit on top of the brine. Hopefully, the brine works as a buffer between the fresh water and the undissolved chlorides.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 4:53 pm to PoppaTiger
I just read the powerpoint from the Assumption Parish meeting.
They say that the natural gas is not coming from a pipeline, so it must be coming from storage in a salt dome. Is this assumption correct?
And where could the diesel be coming from in the sinkhole?
Thanks to LSURoss for linking the site
They say that the natural gas is not coming from a pipeline, so it must be coming from storage in a salt dome. Is this assumption correct?
And where could the diesel be coming from in the sinkhole?
Thanks to LSURoss for linking the site
Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:20 pm to Nodust
They probably have multiple cavities causing issues. The diesel is placed in shut in mines. They are filled with water that becomes brine. Anyway, fresher water will migrate to the top of the brine. However, it has a higher ability to dissolve salt the fresher it is. So, they put diesel in top of it as a buffer for the cap of the mine. The diesel will naturally stay above the water.
However, old mines are also great storage for hydrocarbons. The presence of two separate fuels is alarming, as it could suggest that two different cavities have collapsed. The tremors were probably the salt cracking and collapsing. All just educated opinion, though. Not a geologist or civil engineer. I did get an A in both geology classes I took.
However, old mines are also great storage for hydrocarbons. The presence of two separate fuels is alarming, as it could suggest that two different cavities have collapsed. The tremors were probably the salt cracking and collapsing. All just educated opinion, though. Not a geologist or civil engineer. I did get an A in both geology classes I took.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:25 pm to Nodust
Not a problem. I've got quite a few people that are near the area. Most are doomsday situation people, but a couple of solid sources
Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:27 pm to Jester
They need to make sure the contents of other mines in that dome are fairly stable. The water that rushed into the mine is doing some damage now.
Also, the bubbles could have provided a path that allowed water to reach the top of the salt, possibly eating it away from above. The bubbles were not necessarily directly above where they escaped from.
Also, the bubbles could have provided a path that allowed water to reach the top of the salt, possibly eating it away from above. The bubbles were not necessarily directly above where they escaped from.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:06 pm to LSURoss
quote:The potential is there. Lets hope someone makes the right moves and that doesn't happen
Most are doomsday situation people
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:10 pm to Nodust
I know people don't want to think about it, but what is the "doomsday" senerio?
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:12 pm to LSURoss
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:12 pm to Nodust
That was impressive.
I like the old dude at the end, with the Les Miles style hat on
I like the old dude at the end, with the Les Miles style hat on
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:13 pm to CurDog
quote:
I'll buy my fish from now on
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:13 pm to Nodust
That's what I thought.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:23 pm to LSURoss
That's the worst case I can think of anyway. I imagine it all depends on what is stored in the mines.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 7:34 pm to Nodust
I got ya. I heard somewhere that lake verret could possibly drain into this thing. Reference the doomsday senerio people a few posts up
Posted on 8/8/12 at 8:41 pm to LSURoss
I've been talking (and drinking) with a guy that's been close to this situation for many years...
Here's what I can recall...
Texas Brine owns the well (dome) that appears to be having the problem. Probably leaking around the casing that goes down into the well.
These domes are like huge storage tanks that get things pumped in and out of them over the years. Exactly what those materials are? Who knows?
There are some other domes really close to them, owned by a company called Crosstex (sp?). Supposedly Crstx does very well maintaining the integrity of their domes/wells... but with the wrong influx of energy... maybe all these domes collapse into each other? 20 mile plus area?
Tremors going on right now... is it small earthquakes causing these shifts? or is it the domes shifting that are causing the tremors?
This shifting has caused (at minimum) a severe shift of a 36" line (reported in news) and allegedly more severe shift of a 10" propane line (that I haven't noticed reported.)
Sounds to me... like no easy answers... good time to buy a camp?
Here's what I can recall...
Texas Brine owns the well (dome) that appears to be having the problem. Probably leaking around the casing that goes down into the well.
These domes are like huge storage tanks that get things pumped in and out of them over the years. Exactly what those materials are? Who knows?
There are some other domes really close to them, owned by a company called Crosstex (sp?). Supposedly Crstx does very well maintaining the integrity of their domes/wells... but with the wrong influx of energy... maybe all these domes collapse into each other? 20 mile plus area?
Tremors going on right now... is it small earthquakes causing these shifts? or is it the domes shifting that are causing the tremors?
This shifting has caused (at minimum) a severe shift of a 36" line (reported in news) and allegedly more severe shift of a 10" propane line (that I haven't noticed reported.)
Sounds to me... like no easy answers... good time to buy a camp?
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