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re: Anyone care to ID this Mr. Noshoulders: really is poisonous
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:41 pm to Rize
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:41 pm to Rize
Came across a copperhead last year raking leaves at my camp. It was holed up in some cinder blocks I had stacked. Eased him away after minutes of viewing. I am fascinated with snakes and will not harm unless its to protect me or my family, which I doublt will never happen. Whos gonna kill the mice and rats they eat?
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Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:48 pm to VernonPLSUfan
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Whos gonna kill the mice and rats they eat?
Owls
Posted on 5/11/14 at 2:14 pm to MillerMan
daughter almost stepped on a speckled king snake in our yard. and we let it live. but if I'd have seen that same copperhead in the woods with her - and had a gun - we'd have killed it.
my experience with copperheads is that they are notoriously aggressive. one less problem, for anyone in the woods to have to worry about.
I have no problem letting 50 mice live to save myself, or someone else an ambulance ride, or worse, death.
my experience with copperheads is that they are notoriously aggressive. one less problem, for anyone in the woods to have to worry about.
I have no problem letting 50 mice live to save myself, or someone else an ambulance ride, or worse, death.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:43 pm to LSU Neil
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LSU Neil
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He did because it was HIS prerogative to do so libtard idiot.
Are you saying that ANYONE has the prerogative to kill ANYTHING that they don't like?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:53 pm to Geauxtiga
Here is a list of deaths by animals per year in the US
Bee/Wasp 53
Dogs 31
Horse 20
Spider 6.5
Rattlesnake 5.5
Bull 3
Mountain lion 1
Shark 1
Alligator 0.3
Bear 0.5
Scorpion 0.5
Centipede 0.5
Elephant 0.25
Wolf 0.1
Looks like we need to kill all bees, wasps, dogs, horses and spiders because they kill more people than rattlesnakes.
NOTE: Copperheads didn't make the list.
It appears from some posters on this thread that people have a right to kill anything that they think can harm them.
Bee/Wasp 53
Dogs 31
Horse 20
Spider 6.5
Rattlesnake 5.5
Bull 3
Mountain lion 1
Shark 1
Alligator 0.3
Bear 0.5
Scorpion 0.5
Centipede 0.5
Elephant 0.25
Wolf 0.1
Looks like we need to kill all bees, wasps, dogs, horses and spiders because they kill more people than rattlesnakes.
NOTE: Copperheads didn't make the list.
It appears from some posters on this thread that people have a right to kill anything that they think can harm them.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 9:04 pm to ksliman
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NOTE: Copperheads didn't make the list.
Glad you confirmed it but I've always suspected it. I've treated hundreds of dogs with copperhead bites as they're VERY common around here - only had 1 of them die b/c it took 2 bites right to the face and neck. Owners waited way too long for treatment and he already had trouble breathing before the bites. All others lived - including tiny little rat terrier size dogs.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:05 pm to ksliman
I'm okay with killing all bees/wasp, pitbulls and horses 
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:12 pm to gismap
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gismap
this guy. LMFAO
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:13 pm to AubieALUMdvm
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Copperheads didn't make the list.
Yeah I've read that a copperhead bite ain't shite compared to a rattlesnake bit. IIRC Missouri stopped stocking copperhead antivenin because it was just as bad as the bite itself. Cottonmouth bite is a bit worse than coppers but that may just be because they tend to grow larger than the coppers.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:15 pm to PapaPogey
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this guy. LMFAO
Sup
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:28 pm to gismap
I think my lab got hit by a copperhead when I lived in LA. Not a bad hit and didn't treat more because we didn't know what happened. But a did separate a cotton mouth from his head whole dove hunting......
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:18 pm to OntarioTiger
Non-venomous get to live all day long. Venomous is a different story, depends on where they are. In my yard or places I spend a lot of time with my son=dead. Out where my son won't be with me rattlesnake and copperhead get a pass. Cottonmouth dies any chance I get. Spent enough summers working in rice fields growing up and now beaver trapping that I have a true hatred. One of only three animals that I will kill on sight.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 11:52 pm to smoked hog
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One of only three animals that I will kill on sight.
kind of curious about the other two now
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:34 am to ksliman
.1 for wolves is high considering how few there are. Maybe the deaths were in Alaska.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 3:58 am to mytigger
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my experience with copperheads is that they are notoriously aggressive.
That's pretty much the opposite of a normal copperhead description. And Copperheads aren't dangerous. Weak venom.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:28 am to dat yat
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Hatred for snakes is biblical
Oh Lawd
Posted on 5/12/14 at 4:42 am to Mung
Copperheads are pretty.........
Dead
Dead
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:11 am to The Boat
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And Copperheads aren't dangerous. Weak venom.
I've got 5 days in the hospital and a toe that nearly needed to be amputated that says you're wrong. Sixth grade, getting out of parents swimming pool. Stepped right on him, clinched up my toes and his head got stuck between my toes. Five days in the hospital, my man. Foot was black and the size of a damn football. Couldn't walk on it for weeks.
Your mice and rats and such head for the hills when they see or hear a human coming. Copperheads don't rattle, or show a white mouth to give you a warning.
ETA: Every single copperhead I see dies.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 6:14 am
Posted on 5/12/14 at 6:18 am to The Boat
Interesting article on this subject LINK
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All the snake species tested have had the same initial response to human presence. If given the opportunity, they escape--down a hole, under a ledge, or in the case of cottonmouths, into the water. Escape is even the standard behavior of enormous diamondback rattlesnakes, which will immediately disappear if they have enough warning before they think a person can reach them. But often escape is not possible, so most snakes hold their ground, ready to defend themselves. A difference between copperheads and the other species appears in the next phase, when they are approached. Most rattlesnakes vibrate their tails and most cottonmouths sit with mouth open when a human comes near. Even some non-venomous snakes vibrate their tails. These displays are merely warnings not to tread on them. They are not aggressive attack measures. The snakes just want us to leave them alone. So far, the dozens of cottonmouths Dr. Gibbons stood beside have made threat displays but have not bitten the researcher's boot. The same has been true for canebrake rattlesnakes although too few have been tested to declare that they are as passive as cottonmouths. The exciting news (at least for the researchers) is that the copperhead is different from the others. Most copperheads tested have struck out immediately when they felt threatened.
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