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re: Will or can Scientology be destroyed.

Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:38 am to
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:38 am to
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These haters on here couldn't spell Dianetics if I spotted them the d and the c.
solid Hollywood Henderson reference
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:40 am to
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It is. We have freedom of religion.

Scientology is not a religion, it's a cult.


Said clearly by someone who is religious and doesn't want to be seen in a similar light.

What differentiates the two? How do you even define a religion? Scientology has beliefs about spirituality and the afterlife, too. We accept most mainstream religions as normal because we were brought up around them. There is plenty of totally cookoo shite in the Bible that the followers of the religion have used a few thousand years to filter out and not accept as something that should be taught...

Sorry, rambling... my point is just that I feel like you're a religious person who is simply defending religion in general because you don't want Scientology to be associated in the same category. Unfortunately for you, it is.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:49 am to
Blind faith is still somehow so powerful in this day and age. It's like using the Force but without evidencing any of the magical skills and abilities.

The whole of all religious accounts are based on double hearsay. It's uncanny how much people invest their lives in such unprovable inexplicable nonsense. Mormons, scientologists, jehovahs witnesses, the list goes on and on....
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:52 am to
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The whole of all religious accounts are based on double hearsay. It's uncanny how much people invest their lives in such unprovable inexplicable nonsense. Mormons, scientologists, jehovahs witnesses, the list goes on and on....




From this can I infer you have no faith in any higher power? That we are just here for X number of years with no soul and become just done and over at death?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:53 am to
That's as, or more plausible than anything else we have right now.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 6:59 am to
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That's as, or more plausible than anything else we have right now.



You desire some kind of absolute proof I guess...

I don't...
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:02 am to
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You desire some kind of absolute proof I guess...


You guessed wrong. I'd settle for any "proof."

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I don't...


Of course not. Believe what you want, but it's silly to pretend that anyone else is any more wrong than you are because you believe something without evidence.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:06 am to
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Believe what you want, but it's silly to pretend that anyone else is any more wrong than you are because you believe something without evidence.



Help me with this. I obviously don't have the insight or intelligence that you have. Could you re-phrase or explain this sentence.

Thanks.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:10 am to
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Help me with this.


Sure.

Take the topic being discussed, your beliefs, and combine the two. Let me know what you come up with.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:16 am to
You seem to be making a bunch of assumptions about me or my faith from a couple of sentences. If I can't understand or you can't explain that one sentence, I doubt I can combine all that other stuff...

So if you don't believe in ANY type of faith, why would you even open a thread about ANY one of them? Showing us all how stupid we are and how much smarter you are?

Thanks again.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:20 am to
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assumptions


Not at all. You specifically stated that you believe something and require no proof to believe it. What you believe is not important to my point. You'll notice I've never indicated specifically what I think you do believe, because it doesn't matter.

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I doubt I can combine all that other stuff...


Sure you can.

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So if you don't believe in ANY type of faith, why would you even open a thread about ANY one of them?


Are you a Scientologist?



Posted by King Teal
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:27 am to
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They are a cult, plain and simple.
what do you think the Catholic Church is?
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3328 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:27 am to
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revoke the tax exempt status of religion/churches...


I watched Going Clear last night because it was discussed yesterday. It's a HBO documentary on scientology. They discussed the tax exempt status. IRS didn't just give it to them. They fought them tooth and nail. Scientology started playing dirty and hired PI's to track uppers in the IRS so they could basically blackmail them into giving them the status. They began suing not just the IRS but people in the IRS personally. They told the director if they would just give them exempt status ALL of the lawsuits would go away. Exempt status given. Lawsuits gone. IRS was blackmailed into giving them the status.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:28 am to
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You specifically stated that you believe something and require no proof to believe it.


You show me, by quotes, where I said this and I will leave for a month.

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assumptions


Sure you have.

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Are you a Scientologist?



Not one bit.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:38 am to
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You show me, by quotes, where I said this and I will leave for a month.


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You desire some kind of absolute proof I guess...

I don't...


Now, let's hear it. Can't wait...

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Sure you have.


What assumption have I made? If there were any, were they wrong?

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Not one bit.


Yet, here you are.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:46 am to
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Yet, here you are.



By this logic, YOU are a Scientologist. I did not realize.

You did not quote what you said I said. I NEVER said the things you ASSUMED I was saying...Nice try.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:50 am to
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By this logic, YOU are a Scientologist. I did not realize.


Your "logic."

This is simply meant to show that I don't need a direct belief in the topic to join it.

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You did not quote what you said I said.


You certainly did. Polish it up if you like.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 1/11/17 at 7:57 am to
Not even close...YOU go back and try again...Read slowly, sorry there are no pictures. I NEVER said the words that I believed in things and needed no proof.

YOU assumed you knew what I was saying...You are not very good at this.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:02 am to
I'm not doing that. It isn't important to me that your confusion is cleared up. You said what you said, I posted it, and you're backpedaling and making a poor attempt at playing semantics.

What have I assumed that was incorrect?
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 1/11/17 at 8:11 am to
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People should be able to decide they no longer believe in a specific religion, leave the church, and not be shunned from family and friends who still are in that religion. Scientology doesn't allow that. You leave the church of Scientology and you are married...your spouse has to now leave you because the church has now deemed you an enemy of the church. Your mother/child/sibling/friend/grandparent/grandchild has to disown you forever or they too will be kicked out of the church and also deemed an enemy of the church.


That part is crazy, I can't believe those people had to have an "escape plan", just to leave the church, and some were/are still being "monitored" by the church, after leaving. The guy who's neighbor had a camera in their bird house, was unreal.
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