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re: When does someone no longer have the right to work? (Oregon State pitcher related)
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:01 am to Marciano1
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:01 am to Marciano1
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A profession that puts you in the public eye on a regular basis is not the best place for a sexual predator.
Is he really a "sexual predator" i.e. repeat offender or someone who as a minor did something horrible? If you think the crime is so horrible or it's something he can't be rehabilitated from, what exactly should we do with him? And cop outs like "screw him@ or let him rot don't do anything. If he can't work or go to school hiw exactly will that prevent him from committing other crimes.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:01 am to cubsfan5150
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In this guy's case, he's been punished, theoretically rehabilitated and if experts deem him no longer a threat to children, why should he not be able to work in his chosen profession, assuming that profession doesn't put children in danger?
Has any child molester ever been rehabilitated?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:01 am to H-Town Tiger
Who is saying he can't work? Not being a pitcher doesn't mean he can't work.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:01 am to cubsfan5150
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He has a right to do what he's best qualified for
Is that really a right?
I don't think so.
He has a right to WANT to do what he's best qualified for, not a right to actually do it.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:02 am to FightinTigersDammit
That question is unanswerable to your satisfaction, as child molester is an incredibly broad term.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:05 am to LSUBoo
Three people all quoted that post and none quoted the qualifier... 
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:05 am to Jcorye1
Then you should be voicing your concerns to every job that hires a chomo... Not just the ones that you deem a better job.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:06 am to Weagle25
The qualifier doesn't make the statement correct.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:07 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Has any child molester ever been rehabilitated
Does completely excommunicating someone from society prevent them from committing the same crime again?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:08 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Why not? What makes baseball any different than roofing? Neither puts kids in harm's way.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:09 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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The qualifier doesn't make the statement correct.
What prevents him from doing what he's best qualified to do if someone offers him that job?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:10 am to cubsfan5150
Because he can choose to comment whatever he wants. That shouldn't concern you.
You need me to explain the difference between a baseball player and a roofer?
You need me to explain the difference between a baseball player and a roofer?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:11 am to Weagle25
Nothing. What makes it a right?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:12 am to cubsfan5150
You have no idea who and who I have not supported over the years player wise, yet you put in a thinly veiled gotchya! argument. Heh.
These things are also case by case basis, so the idea that you are thinking my opinion on this single individual case somehow projects to the rest of things is false too. These aren't just allegations, he molested a young girl for multiple years.
These things are also case by case basis, so the idea that you are thinking my opinion on this single individual case somehow projects to the rest of things is false too. These aren't just allegations, he molested a young girl for multiple years.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:12 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Yes... When it comes to hiring ex-cons (which theoretically doesn't even apply since minor's records are sealed).
Both a jobs in the private sector that don't put children in danger.
Both a jobs in the private sector that don't put children in danger.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:13 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Who is saying he can't work? Not being a pitcher doesn't mean he can't work.
This is a cop out. Are you saying he just can't have a "prestigious" or high paying jobs or public eye? Who gets to decide what jobs he can and can't have? I mean preschool teacher or day care worker ok, but someone asked if you'd hire a carpenter that was a registered sex offender implying he wouldn't. Saying he's not banned but everyone refusing to hire him in part because of public pressure is a de facto ban. It's a difference without meaning.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:13 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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That shouldn't concern you.
Why?
He can choose to comment whatever he wants.
See how this works?
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You need me to explain the difference between a baseball player and a roofer?
He's saying there is none in regards to this topic
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:13 am to cubsfan5150
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Why not? What makes baseball any different than roofing? Neither puts kids in harm's way.
there are plenty of children in a clubhouse and around the field, the practice facilities, and of course in the stands. Children that roam pretty freely.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:13 am to cubsfan5150
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When does a "criminal" lose the right to work?
Why do you have quotations around criminal? He plead guilty to a crime, therefore he is a criminal by definition.
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In this guy's case, he's been punished, theoretically rehabilitated and if experts deem him no longer a threat to children
He was punished and completed his sentence. He didn't even have to register as a sex offender, so he should be extremely thankful.
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why should he not be able to work in his chosen profession, assuming that profession doesn't put children in danger?
There isn't some law prohibiting him from playing professional baseball and I don't see anyone saying that he should be precluded from playing.
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Baseball is obviously what this guy is most qualified to do.
I'm qualified to watch movies and comment on them, that doesn't give me a right to a career as the movie critic for Rolling Stone or Esquire.
Not sure the point of this thread.
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