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re: What's the truth on Katrina/Blackwater, etc.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:30 am to monteandmakers
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:30 am to monteandmakers
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I've heard there's a conspiracy of a Boh Bros barge that created the breach in the 17th st canal that flooded Lakeview but was promptly removed to clear liability.
"Boh" backwards is Hob, as in Hob-nailed Boot, a well-known euphemism for White Supremacists.
tl/dr: You are stupid. Shut up.
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Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:34 am to lakeviewtiger
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I was at Memorial Baptist from august 27th through September 2nd. Ask Away.
I was at Touro from The 27th to the 31st, we got to drive out...Thank God...
Heard so many b.s. stories...
Worst I've seen was some druggie was stabbed doing a heroin deal... He had a chest tube in him in the ER, he and his crack head girlfriend wanted to leave, told the dude he would die if he left...
Some other crack head chick fell and cut her hand open bleeding like a stuck pig trying to get in the ER...
Family members of some of the housekeeping staff were looting the Rite Aid at St Charles and Louisiana and tried to get back in the hospital with the stuff they had and security wouldn't let them back in...
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 10:41 am
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:38 am to Hangover Haven
we had a guy sliced up from a knife fight while looting the walgreens at napoleon
another fine lady was stabbed by her daughter with a butter knife over drugs
don't even get me started about what we saw at the intersection of napoleon and st.charles....
rite aid looted to hell, all the booze being stolen from fat harry's and copelands...people trying to break into a church...crazy
another fine lady was stabbed by her daughter with a butter knife over drugs
don't even get me started about what we saw at the intersection of napoleon and st.charles....
rite aid looted to hell, all the booze being stolen from fat harry's and copelands...people trying to break into a church...crazy
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:40 am to lakeviewtiger
Lakeviewtiger my husbands cousin was there ... She was med records director. She was scared silly and her mom was a basket case back near lafayette.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:43 am to GFunk
Honestly, I wish people like you knew how insane you look when posting these ridiculous nutnob theories. Conspiracy nuts always have "trusted sources."
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:44 am to tiger91
I think I know who you are talking about...
Baptist was an absolute absurdity when it came to hurricane prep and evacuation.
a handful of us were volunteering with a bud in engineering to help ready a dormant helipad. we hard wired lighting to junction boxes, taped flashlights to posts and were left in awe any time a Blackhawk landed and took off with the people we were saving.
Baptist was an absolute absurdity when it came to hurricane prep and evacuation.
a handful of us were volunteering with a bud in engineering to help ready a dormant helipad. we hard wired lighting to junction boxes, taped flashlights to posts and were left in awe any time a Blackhawk landed and took off with the people we were saving.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:44 am to tiger91
And my husbands classmate was an air medic for Acadian. He pretty much got shite together and got the Evacs of babies going but not sure from which hospital. Nurses were sending babies in isolets one in each ... He started putting them 2 and 3 per to maximize space.
I try don't think he's over the things he saw and the stress he was under. What a horrible time for all.
I try don't think he's over the things he saw and the stress he was under. What a horrible time for all.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:46 am to lakeviewtiger
Initials PR. And she was k. Charge of employee pets ... And she's not a pet person. Lol. She ended up on a bus to Houston and then "escaped" and took a cab to her brothers and finally made it home to her parents.
I'm way west of Nola and my heart hurts for those who are reliving this. I sort of wish the news would let it go. But then you can't forget part of history either.
I'm still amazed that Blanco just had that what do I do stare on her face.
I'm way west of Nola and my heart hurts for those who are reliving this. I sort of wish the news would let it go. But then you can't forget part of history either.
I'm still amazed that Blanco just had that what do I do stare on her face.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:47 am to tiger91
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Lakeviewtiger my husbands cousin was there ... She was med records director. She was scared silly and her mom was a basket case back near lafayette.
It sucked... It was not bad for us at Touro compared to what happened at Baptist... We didn't flood.. We were lucky, we drove out, and it was still really intense... Worst part for us was the stress of not knowing what the hell was going on...
I got to leave going across the CCC taking the Westbank Expressway to the Huey P...to Jefferson to Causeway getting to my house in Old Metairie...
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:47 am to tiger91
that is 100% correct. we worked like hell for that dude. it wasn't a bunch of corporate honchos, it was him, a guy from engineering volunteers coordinating. some docs were afraid to send patients away for lack of certain treatment capabilities. I reminded one of them that his patient wasn't going to get it on the roof of a helipad in flooded nola. at that point he put down his malpractice guard and started doing the right thing
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:49 am to tiger91
yep! I was one of the ones helping move patients and pets around! when kids would get scared they took them to care for the animals
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:57 am to lakeviewtiger
The Acadian guys name was Mark Creswell. Don't mind putting it here as it was in the newspapers all around here and I'm sure elsewhere. We were getting an influx of Nola peeps in our town and school ... Have so many hugs I Was worn out.
God bless you all as you continue to rebuild your city.
God bless you all as you continue to rebuild your city.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 10:59 am to pensacola
I don't know about Blackwater, but once that police officer was shot it the head at the foot of the bridge ( Chevron Station)
NOPD and citizens were shooting looters and blacks in Algiers and in one case burning the body.
NOPD and citizens were shooting looters and blacks in Algiers and in one case burning the body.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/22/15 at 11:29 am to lakeviewtiger
I don't have any question really, I was just more interested in the whole mercy killings thing with that doctor. I knew there had to be some good threads from back in the day somewhere on the OT regarding it
Posted on 8/22/15 at 11:35 am to pensacola
I was at Building 35 at Jackson Barracks when the storm passed. For those of you unfamiliar with Jackson Barracks - it is the "end" of the city next to Arabi - it is a thin slice of land that intersects and runs perpendicular to N. Claiborne/W. Judge Perez and St. Claude in the Lower Ninth Ward.
After the levees failed, we were inundated and much of the Louisiana National Guard command and control personnel had to be evacuated, which took much of the rest of Monday. I was evacuated to the Superdome around 2100 or 2200, via boat to the river levee and UH-60 to the dome.
I was at the Superdome through Labor Day and left the city via UH-47 to the Gillis Long Center at Carville, Louisiana. There was 1 shooting indicent at the Superdome during the "crisis week" - and individual fired from one of the interstate ramps - many of us believe he may have been shooting at the helicopters. Fire was returned, and I was told the shooter was killed.
People were at the dome, of course, prior to the storm. I actually slept in some business offices in the Superdome building Monday night - but these were vacant - just carpet and fixtures, no furniture.
People kept streaming in all through Tuesday and Wednesday. We evacuated all military personnel from the dome building on Tuesday, because the crowds were becoming unruly and difficult to manage. They tried to disarm a guardsman which resulted in an accidental discharge/self-injury. There were no working toilets as of Wednesday. Port-a-johns arrived sometime on Thursday (IIRC).
The morgue (I can personally verify) at the Superdome had only a few people as of Wednesday and Thursday of the crisis week. The number that sticks out is 4, but it may have been 5 or 6 - this was after the cat who fell/jumped/was pushed died. There were many elderly patients from hospitals and nursing homes brought in on Monday and Tuesday, and I'm sure at least a couple of those expired just from the stress and heat.
Recall that you had a city the size of 30,000 for over a week, and another impromptu one at the convention center of several thousand for several days.
From my perspective, several things caused problems in the early going:
1. Ridiculous decision for the state headquarters to attempt to ride out the storm in Jackson Barracks - that cost us almost a full day - and the first full day.
2. Terrible federal/state coordination - and not at the agency levels, either - boots on the ground wanted to get the job done. It was political infighting between Blanco/Nagin and Bush. Quite petty. This also led to the whole Landreneau versus Honore divided command (which is undesirable and a last resort).
3. Failure of imagination that the entire city infrastructure would be compromised by so many levee failures. The damage from wind and rain was expected. There was a plan to move people around and bring supplies in. It was unimaginable that we would be not able to get in and out of about 40 to 50 of the city for over a week. I felt like we were caught in quicksand. As a minor functionary, all I could do was work 1 task at a time.
After the levees failed, we were inundated and much of the Louisiana National Guard command and control personnel had to be evacuated, which took much of the rest of Monday. I was evacuated to the Superdome around 2100 or 2200, via boat to the river levee and UH-60 to the dome.
I was at the Superdome through Labor Day and left the city via UH-47 to the Gillis Long Center at Carville, Louisiana. There was 1 shooting indicent at the Superdome during the "crisis week" - and individual fired from one of the interstate ramps - many of us believe he may have been shooting at the helicopters. Fire was returned, and I was told the shooter was killed.
People were at the dome, of course, prior to the storm. I actually slept in some business offices in the Superdome building Monday night - but these were vacant - just carpet and fixtures, no furniture.
People kept streaming in all through Tuesday and Wednesday. We evacuated all military personnel from the dome building on Tuesday, because the crowds were becoming unruly and difficult to manage. They tried to disarm a guardsman which resulted in an accidental discharge/self-injury. There were no working toilets as of Wednesday. Port-a-johns arrived sometime on Thursday (IIRC).
The morgue (I can personally verify) at the Superdome had only a few people as of Wednesday and Thursday of the crisis week. The number that sticks out is 4, but it may have been 5 or 6 - this was after the cat who fell/jumped/was pushed died. There were many elderly patients from hospitals and nursing homes brought in on Monday and Tuesday, and I'm sure at least a couple of those expired just from the stress and heat.
Recall that you had a city the size of 30,000 for over a week, and another impromptu one at the convention center of several thousand for several days.
From my perspective, several things caused problems in the early going:
1. Ridiculous decision for the state headquarters to attempt to ride out the storm in Jackson Barracks - that cost us almost a full day - and the first full day.
2. Terrible federal/state coordination - and not at the agency levels, either - boots on the ground wanted to get the job done. It was political infighting between Blanco/Nagin and Bush. Quite petty. This also led to the whole Landreneau versus Honore divided command (which is undesirable and a last resort).
3. Failure of imagination that the entire city infrastructure would be compromised by so many levee failures. The damage from wind and rain was expected. There was a plan to move people around and bring supplies in. It was unimaginable that we would be not able to get in and out of about 40 to 50 of the city for over a week. I felt like we were caught in quicksand. As a minor functionary, all I could do was work 1 task at a time.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:26 pm to pensacola
The stories from the Superdome about all the rape and murder were complete BS and laughable looking back on it
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:33 pm to TigerBait1127
Along with the stories about rescue dogs going in the water and dying.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:39 pm to Dizz
LINK
Here's a good article on it. Despite the American Sniper killing 30 people from the roof:
And our beautiful Mayor:
Here's a good article on it. Despite the American Sniper killing 30 people from the roof:
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It is a fact that many died at the convention center and Superdome (7 and 10 respectively, according to the most recent reports from the coroner), but according to a Sept. 15 report in The Chicago Tribune, it was mostly from neglect rather than overt violence. According to the Tribune article, which quoted Capt. Jeffery Winn, the head of the city's SWAT team, one person at the convention center died from multiple stab wounds and one National Guardsman was shot in the leg.
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On Sept. 8, Lt. Dave Banelli, head of the sex crimes unit, told a CNN correspondent, Drew Griffin, that his division had reports of two attempted rapes at the Superdome. The caveat here is that rape is a notoriously underreported crime, perhaps more so under the chaotic circumstances.
And our beautiful Mayor:
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Appearing on "Oprah" on Sept. 6, Chief Eddie Compass said of the Superdome: "We had little babies in there, some of the little babies getting raped." Mayor C. Ray Nagin concurred: "They have people standing out there, have been in that frickin' Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people."
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But the night before, Chief Compass had told The Guardian, "We don't have any substantiated rapes. We will investigate if they come forward." Many of the more toxic rumors seem to have come from evacuees, half-crazed with fear sitting through night after night in the dark. Victims, officials and reporters all took one of the most horrific events in American history and made it worse than it actually was.
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:52 pm to Dizz
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Along with the stories about rescue dogs going in the water and dying.
Oh yeah, who could forget about the "toxic" water.
Posted on 8/22/15 at 12:53 pm to pensacola
I was a contractor working at Ochsner Hospital main campus on and off for weeks starting 3 days after the storm. The only military presence I saw were the National Guard or Army Reserve unit set up on the front grounds of the medical center, they usually had one or two guys with M16s walking around. We and some of the other contractors had our own security, most of them were guys just out of the service, but they were just ordinary security guards, no body armor, Kevlar,or other tactical gear. I never saw one with a weapon other than a side arm, although the ones with us had a shotgun in their vehicle. We had wristbands to identify us as being cleared to enter the hospital, but overall security was pretty lax, several buildings had the doors blocked open due to no AC. When I could I would walk around outside in a large parking lot in the rear. One night I looked in the back of a pickup and saw two feet sticking out from a tarp with just socks on. I first thought it was a body, later I met the person that belonged to the feet. He was one of the Ochsner physicians, he had lost his home in the storm, and his family had left the state to live with relatives. He was living out of his pickup, and found he was most comfortable just sleeping in the bed when he could get a break.
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