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re: What is the OTs opinion of homeschool?

Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by JetFuelTyga
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

What is the OTs opinion of homeschool?


Anything to keep Little Johnny away from the blacks and Mexicans, probably.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
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In what state are you not allowed to do it?


I wouldn't even know where to begin with this question. States have tried to outlaw it. There is an actual home school defense association whose sole purpose is to defend the right to homeschool and they are active nationwide. There are states that severely regulate homeschooling to the point that some people are not "allowed" to homeschool.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11564 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:46 pm to
Curious...what does the high school diploma say? Like mine had the name of my high school listed. Does it just say "home school"?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:47 pm to
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There are states that severely regulate homeschooling to the point that some people are not "allowed" to homeschool.


Such as?

And I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to adhere to child welfare laws when it comes to homeschooling. But I've seen the bad end of it, where the parent of a kid who doesn't want her kid to end up in alternative placement after beating the shite out of another "home schools" them for a year then jumps to another district. Or a 6th grader who lived out in the state and has never been in a school and is reading on a 1st grade level when his parents are forced to put him back in school due to neglect.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:57 pm to
I know about 10 kids who are being or have been home-schooled. 2 of them went on to college but I have no idea how well they have fared. 3 of them have parents (2 families) who are dumbass trailer trash so they have no hope. Maybe they will learn to make meth, but they'll never pass anything like the GED. Out of the other 5, 4 are boys between the ages of about 8 and 16 or 17. All of them are socially retarded. If you can picture how a shy 3 tear old cowers behind his mother when anyone not closely related to them talks to them, you can picture each of these guys.

A few years ago I witnessed 2 baseball games between CHEF (the home school sports team) and a Class B school, and not a good Class B school. It was like I was watching a top bracket travel ball team in end of the year form vs a rec ball team of rejects from the rest of the league.
Posted by ChewyDante
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Every healthy kid is born with the same cognitive capacity.


Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:01 pm to
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theory is smart kids will succeed no matter what so no need to private school
maybe, but what about doing their best?
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:01 pm to
Wide difference depending on the parents and child.

My daughter chose to homeschool to have more time for competitive travel sports. She finished high school classes by 10th grade, dual enrolled in college in 11th and was a full time college student by 12th grade. She is on full academic scholarship in college now and should start medical school a year early. Never made a B in her life.

My son will NEVER be homeschooled. He is not motivated and is very social. He needs someone other than his parents pushing him to do schoolwork. He makes all A's but complains whenever he has to open a book.

TL;DR version?

Good parents will do what is best for each child. Public school, Private school, Home school. It is all the same.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77563 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:02 pm to
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And these are the people you are using as an example of refuting the stigma of homeschoolers being weird as frick?


These are people who have a good sense of humor about the stigma of home schoolers, rolling their eyes at people who just assume their kids are going to end up socially awkward religious nuts.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:04 pm to
It's interesting to see people's outside perceptions.

I was an early adopter homeschooler (1985), and I've seen my share of weirdos in both traditional and homeschool environments.

I can't say that there is a significant difference per capita.

I could post my personal C/V here, from partying to professional, but if people have made up their minds, it is useless (pardon the subtle brag).

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Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:04 pm to
We don't probate school for the education. I'm paying them to put up with my child.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110670 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:05 pm to
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Every kid I've met (through their parents) are smart as hell but suck socially......literally ALL OF THEM!!!

My wife manages a hair salon, has been cutting hair for like 10 years, whatever.

She says she can spot a home schooled kids from the 1st sentence out of his mouth, sometimes even before they start talking.

Just about every one of them are super weird.

My mother in law doesn't live near us but was in town a couple of weeks ago when my boys started school. And one day she was ranting all day about how she wishes we lived nearby so she could home school my boys(1st graders.) And she just kept casually saying it like we would actually allow that.

My kids' school district is ranked like 9th or 11th or some shite in all of Texas, but I'm going to homeschool them, ok!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:05 pm to
They tend to be very advanced, but they miss out in a lot of social interacting which affects their social skills and understanding of social cues in the future.

Scruffy has seen plenty.
Posted by majoredinwhitehorse
lower alabama
Member since Nov 2016
803 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 1:50 pm to
Sex with the teacher causes problems, rather than good memories
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:01 pm to
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The kids will have no idea how to be social with other kids


I sometimes wonder if this would be a bad thing. I mean some of the shite bags out there, do you really WANT your kids hanging out with them and picking up their bad habits?

But I digress, there are in fact socializing options for home schooled kids, where they can play sports and such even though they are homeschooled. Though MOST (not all, but most) parents I have met who homeschool are lazy as frick about it , I'm not convinced that that hurts their children any more than the lousy public schools do.

Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
4781 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:07 pm to
We Homeschool. Once a week we meet with a group called Classical Conversations where the kids learn together and do verbal presentations. The form of education we do is Classical Education and there is nothing easy about it. They will learn Latin and how to think critically. They also learn these detailed timelines of the world and the things they know about history and dates blow me away. I have an 11 year old boy and 10 year old girl. They seem to do great socially but we try to get them out a lot. They do seem to be maintaining a kid like innocent wonder (Hard to explain but that is the best way to put it) longer than their public school friends. It's hard and a big financial sacrifice but I don't think we will ever regret it. Life is so flexible and laid back not having to get back and forth from school everyday.

LOL at folks making it about race. The families in our Classical Conversation group are the least racist people I know and we have several families who have adopted African American kids who are students in our group,
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
4781 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:16 pm to
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But I digress, there are in fact socializing options for home schooled kids, where they can play sports and such even though they are homeschooled.


This. There maybe 3 days a week when my kids are not directly interacting with other kids. This argument is so tired. I admit that in times past stranger people homeschooled. Their kids tended to be weird because mom and dad were weird. But if you go to your area homeschool convention now days you will find the large majority are very normal and affluent people.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:27 pm to
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This. There maybe 3 days a week when my kids are not directly interacting with other kids. This argument is so tired. I admit that in times past stranger people homeschooled. Their kids tended to be weird because mom and dad were weird. But if you go to your area homeschool convention now days you will find the large majority are very normal and affluent people.



This may be of interest to some


LINK

I'm on a local school board, we just voted to allow one home school student to play on our football team this year and another to be in the band.


I see no problem with this type of arrangement. In fact , that's a lot of commitment on a parent's part. Bring your child to school for practice then take them home and teach them (actually I think this one particular family has a private tutor )

Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
4781 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:31 pm to
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One of the main problems with home schools beside socialization is that you end up with a "teacher" trying to teach several grade levels at the same time. You can't give the kids the instruction they need.


Seriously? You think a hired teacher teaching 30 kids at different levels can give more proper attention to a student than a mother of two or three kids who birthed them and would gladly lay her life down for them? Come one man, the old tired socailization argument is even better than that one.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
4781 posts
Posted on 8/30/17 at 2:34 pm to
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I see no problem with this type of arrangement. In fact , that's a lot of commitment on a parent's part. Bring your child to school for practice then take them home and teach them (actually I think this one particular family has a private tutor )


It does make sense when you consider that homeschoolers pay the same taxes as everyone else. I'm thankful for such arrangements. We don't use them yet but if my kid is gifted enough I would like that option.
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