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re: What happened when this woman drove a Mercedes to pick up food stamps
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:30 am to VetteGuy
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:30 am to VetteGuy
i was agreeing with you. No way they could sell that car and buy a $7500 Honda when the clean retail on that Benz is less than that.
I backed up my assertion with a link as well.
I backed up my assertion with a link as well.
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:30 am to DamnStrong1860
It's too bad the righteous crew doesn't get this worked up over rampant financial fraud and the essential thieving of taxpayer monies to subsidize the failed decisions of elite businessmen.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:32 am to The Third Leg
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It's too bad the righteous crew doesn't get this worked up over rampant financial fraud and the essential thieving of taxpayer monies to subsidize the failed decisions of elite businessmen.
Yeah it's not like an entire generation marched in the streets and shite on police cars because of this.
And because they can't find a job with their 18th Century Japanese Feminist Literature degree.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:33 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:They are if you care about the welfare of children
Is this article claiming that food stamps are necessary?
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:33 am to meauxjeaux2
OK, that's what I thought.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:40 am to The Third Leg
It was pretty disturbing to see how many seemed to want to make her more miserable.
Like, "let me kick you when you're down".
I don't know everybody's situation that gets in a bind. Maybe they put themselves there, maybe they didn't.
It doesn't hurt to not be an a-hole or slip 'em some cash or whatever.
The guy with the religious card would've made a better impression with a $100 wrapped around the card.
Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary, use words.
Like, "let me kick you when you're down".
I don't know everybody's situation that gets in a bind. Maybe they put themselves there, maybe they didn't.
It doesn't hurt to not be an a-hole or slip 'em some cash or whatever.
The guy with the religious card would've made a better impression with a $100 wrapped around the card.
Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary, use words.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:48 am to DamnStrong1860
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So its her fault her husband bought and paid for an expensive car before they met?
Her stated reasons for not selling it were as silly as should be expected from someone who could write that article without realizing how they sound.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:54 am to Pettifogger
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Yeah it's not like an entire generation marched in the streets and shite on police cars because of this.
Poors are a drop in the bucket. Even if the current trends continue, these subsidies are marginal factors in a six trillion dollar government economy. However, we still find the need to dedicate massive blocks of resources to rooting out undeserving beneficiaries and prosecuting them with much bluster; spending more jailing one of them than it takes to feed three.
Meanwhile, some of the most irresponsible and costly decisions in the history of business went entirely unpunished and virtually no money was spent unraveling the obvious fraud.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:54 am to uway
It was a bit on the whiny side, but selling the car would've been dumb.
Anyone that can do math understands this.
It sounds like she's a lifelong Democrat now, though.
At least until they get in that 40% bracket.
Anyone that can do math understands this.
It sounds like she's a lifelong Democrat now, though.
At least until they get in that 40% bracket.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 8:55 am to uway
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Her stated reasons for not selling it were as silly as should be expected from someone who could write that article without realizing how they sound.
What does a high mileage, ten year-old Benz of that cut fetch, five thousand?
Then what will she drive? I guess she will take the bus.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:00 am to The Third Leg
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Meanwhile, some of the most irresponsible and costly decisions in the history of business went entirely unpunished and virtually no money was spent unraveling the obvious fraud.
But how would you punish? If you didn't inject capital, there is a real risk the system comes down. That sucks, I think most agree.
But blaming financial institutions is only half the story. Others who deserve blame:
1) The Federal government which encouraged irresponsible lending practices
2) A population that sought and obtained bad loans, usually through no misfeasance by a financial institution, and claimed it shouldn't be held responsible for its own decisions. Unfortunately, many of these folks are now suing banks and living in homes they're no longer paying for.
3) The population that thrived because of predatory/irresponsible lending's MBS, leading to demand for more and more and more by financial institutions. How many people were complaining about their MBS heavy 401k in 2006?
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:03 am to The Third Leg
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Poors are a drop in the bucket. Even if the current trends continue, these subsidies are marginal factors in a six trillion dollar government economy. However, we still find the need to dedicate massive blocks of resources to rooting out undeserving beneficiaries and prosecuting them with much bluster; spending more jailing one of them than it takes to feed three.
The entitlement problem clearly goes beyond those beneath the poverty line. I understand why you're saying that in this context, but we both know it's a substantial issue.
As for spending a lot of resources to find undeserving beneficiaries and prosecuting them, this is laughable and simply does not happen, assuming you're talking about prosecution for defrauding entitlement programs.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:16 am to Pettifogger
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Federal Government
To be sure, the culprits inside of this arm of blame are politicians working on behalf of business leaders.
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A population that sought and obtained bad loans, usually through no misfeasance by a financial institution, and claimed it shouldn't be held responsible for its own decisions. Unfortunately, many of these folks are now suing banks and living in homes they're no longer paying for
If you believe the fraud in the subprime fallout was not rampant, systemic, and found at all levels of lending institutions, we can agree to disagree. I'm not acting as if everyone - or even the majority - of borrowers were duped either. That said, if we are going to put that responsibility on one side of the transaction, it should equally fall to the other as well. Bad decisions should be lived with at all levels to promote market fluidity and natural controls.
You talk of in the direction of generational poverty, this concept is no different. How can business be expected to act in a responsible manner when irresponsible behavior is rewarded like this? It is the same argument.
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The population that thrived because of predatory/irresponsible lending's MBS, leading to demand for more and more and more by financial institutions. How many people were complaining about their MBS heavy 401k in 2006?
How many people were complaining about Asbestos a hundred years ago? It was invented almost five thousand years ago.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:23 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Is no longer middle class
They drive a car that costs more than one of their entire salaries?
These 2 are imbeciles. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbag
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DirtyMikeandtheBoys
You normally post some funny things and I thought you were funny in a lot of them but now I realize that you maybe mentally retarded or have zero clue how much c class Mercedes is.
120,000 is an income that a middle class family cam live on and be comfortable easily. That car is NOT out of the means of a family with that budget.
shite happens and they needed a little help. That's what the system is there for.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:41 am to WHATDOINO
The woman sounds like they were in legitimate need for govt assistance and no one should be saying anything to her face when using that assistance.
BUT, I completely disagree with one of her main premises in the video.
You absolutely SHOULD be ashamed to have to rely on govt assistance. When you see pictures of ppl in bread lines in the 1930's, they were not proud to be there.
This mindset of entitlement that has beset the current generation has completely fricked up this country. No one has any memory or clue what its like to have to fight to maintain our freedom from foreign enemies or to have to fight to not go hungry.
BUT, I completely disagree with one of her main premises in the video.
You absolutely SHOULD be ashamed to have to rely on govt assistance. When you see pictures of ppl in bread lines in the 1930's, they were not proud to be there.
This mindset of entitlement that has beset the current generation has completely fricked up this country. No one has any memory or clue what its like to have to fight to maintain our freedom from foreign enemies or to have to fight to not go hungry.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:52 am to The Third Leg
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What does a high mileage, ten year-old Benz of that cut fetch, five thousand?
Then what will she drive? I guess she will take the bus.
Except it was not a 10 year old Benz. It was a 2003 model and her husband lost his job in 2008 maybe 2009. So it was a 5-6 year old model.
Not to mention the cost to insure, fuel and maintain a Benz despite its age is not cheap, especially not while also keeping a Honda at the same time.
Yes she absolutely could have taken the bus, but that seems below this woman.
This post was edited on 7/29/14 at 9:54 am
Posted on 7/29/14 at 9:59 am to Brightside Bengal
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You absolutely SHOULD be ashamed to have to rely on govt assistance. When you see pictures of ppl in bread lines in the 1930's, they were not proud to be there.
They looked that way because they were starving.
I'm stunned that people cannot understand the Depression was nearly a century ago and cite it's point in history as a measuring stick for subsidies today. We have since taken over the planet and live in a country that is awash in cash, dragging a glut of displaced labor along amidst a proliferation of outsourcing and automation.
Some people just need work to earn and there is not enough busy work available. Much of the labor performed today is superfluous and could be easily eliminated. Easily. The transition to a white collar existence and a creative economy comes with a lot of baggage.
Posted on 7/29/14 at 10:02 am to The Third Leg
tl/huffpost dnr
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