re: Weep for poor ignorant Tradesman like plumbers.

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$15/hr plumbers are much more common.

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In Shreveport/Bossier you couldn't get a plumber to piss in your direction for $15/hr. Typically a $70 to $100 first hour fee followed by $40 to $70/hr.

I know the plumber doesn't see all of that unless he's working for himself, but he's seeing well above $15/hr.

I’ve done several plumbing jobs myself. Sure it takes me half a day but I’m SAVING money. Last time I called one it cost me $400 and he finally got it unclogged. Something I def tried to do? But couldn’t. Can I now? Probably so. I’d have to go another route than he did though. He struggled. Electrical work? If quote is cheap? I’ll have em do it. Changing electrical outlets? Piece of cake. Lights, fans. I do it myself and my old man is an electrician so if I need work done? He can help me. I used to dis plumbers. Now? I praise them. Crappy work? Sure! But they do good work if reputable. Thing is you’ll pay the piper.

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My plumber is an anesthesiologist for his side gig

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He must make the same at each profession.

Except when he bills for plumbing he gets paid in full upfront or after job is complete, but when he bills for anesthesiologist work he bills for triple the amount, then renegotiates a few months later with the insurance for a fraction of the billed amount, then gets paid for 80% of the renegotiated amount by the insurance company, and then bills the remainder to the patient who will more than likely not pay and the bill is sent to medical collections who might buy the debt for 25% of the billed amount.

Ain’t medical billing grand.

It’s taken that man years to complete that job in 30 minutes. You’re paying him for his experience.

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for literally tree-fiddy to repair a pipe in my ceiling. About 30 mins work

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You had to pay another man to do this simple task for you?

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Well why didn’t you fix it your self? college grad.

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Bc he’s fricking stupid

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Unless my child were truly gifted and could excel in a STEM field, there is absolutely no way I'd steer them in any direction other than a trade.

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I am almost in agreement

My kid could go to trade school. Get out get a job. Get employed by a solid outfit. Get 5-7 years good experience and I could get him set up in his own business. Cheaper than college and he is making bank with people working under him at 35.

My old man (RIP) was a plumber his whole adult career. He made me work with him every summer throughout high school. It was awesome because I got to spend time with him (I lived with my mom in a different city) and I got to earn alittle scratch. But, most of all I learned a valuable trade that no one can ever take away from me. I can't begin to tell you how much money I've saved myself and my friends and family. Although sometimes it can be a crappy (literally) it sure can make bank.

The girls answering the phones get 15.

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But the new construction plumber that's a money printing relatively easy job.

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If you can get hooked up with a few builders that do decent volume then you have it made. As you said, the rough-in these days isn't hard at all especially if you have a track hoe or trencher for the waste pipe. The top out is probably the most time-consuming part running the pex and of course setting the fixtures at the end is easy. It's all fairly simple and lucrative.