re: Weep for poor ignorant Tradesman like plumbers.

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s.There are thousands of tricks and shortcuts in ever trade and the only way to learn them is years of experience. Also, if you have to buy several specified tools that likely will not be used again, how much or you saving DIYing.

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^^^^This

I do all work on my house and cars except for Automatic Transmission. Its not that I can't do the Transmission work but the special tools along with knowing what parts have been upgraded it isn't worth it

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while you were shelling out $5k/ year for a college degree

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While I agree that tradesman can definitely make bank, where are you getting a college degree for $5k a year. I'm pretty sure even a juco is more than that. My kids dorm his 1st semester of college was north of $6k.

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I do all work on my cars except for Automatic Transmission.

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What kinda stuff are you using for tire mounting and front end alignments?

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Poor bastard has no college education. I just scratched out a check for literally tree-fiddy to repair a pipe in my ceiling. About 30 mins work.

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Why does a good plumber cost so much?
Because they are fricking well worth it.

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the student loan program should be helping kids in trade schools.

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Or, better yet, stop cutting the budgets of Career Tech/Vocational Schools at the high school level. Start encouraging students to take those courses and destigmatize choosing that route. You have people who are needing workers and are willing to teach them. You have kids needing work and/or a career.

Hell, I had a friend in high school who had multiple certifications in computer tech (I'm not sure what they called it) before he graduated high school which didn't cost him a dime. He also won state and placed in national competitions that got him a scholarship that paid for his Associates degree and other certs he needed/wanted.

The same can be obtained for numerous fields, but we are too focused on pushing everyone into Advanded Diploma programs in high school that don't amount to shite for the large majority of students. At the same time, Career Tech is looked down on by many teachers and guidance counselors and viewed as an afterthought or waste of time and money by others.

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Poor bastard probably makes north of $40/hr and has damn near since he started as a journeyman. Especially while you were shelling out $5k/ year for a college degree to make less money. And I say that as someone with a college degree myself.

There’s a lot to shite on people’s career choices. Going into the trades ain’t one of them. Or feel free to learn to fix your own toilets, air conditioner, and electrical work. Those guys professions are going to be in such high demand within a decade you’ll be begging for someone to come work on your shite.

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I see l, sarcasm meter broken or my post was poorly crafted. Either way apologies to the plumbers I offended. My half bath was hemorrhaging so it was an easy $350 to scratch out.

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This place is extremely dumb, that OP was loaded with sarcasm

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Maybe just touchy. If the replies are Texans they are pissed like me. Lol

We haven't had this thread in a while where trades people jump on here and claim to make 6 figs and work 20 hours a week.

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Or, better yet, stop cutting the budgets of Career Tech/Vocational Schools at the high school level.

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Where are you seeing that happen?

I sell training equipment to career tech/vocational schools at both the HS and college level. In my territory (GA, FL, AL), schools are being planned and built left and right. Georgia opened 2 ($7M in revenue for me) this year despite COVID and I have 3 more lined up for this summer (2 new and 1 renovation). I also have projects in AL and FL lined up for the next 2-3 years at around $3 million per project.

And those are only high school level projects. College is similar numbers. Our company will do record revenues 3 years in a row.