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re: Was It Rape? Or Was It Regrettable Drunk Sex?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to Navytiger74
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If she isn't lying
I'm assuming she was. Women as a whole have lost my trust when it comes to these types of cases. More often than not they're lying so I'm going to assume that they're all lying until I see physical evidence. A woman's account of an accused rape shouldn't even be admissible in court.
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to HempHead
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If you're sober, I absolutely agree. However, if both parties are drunk, then that kind of inhibition goes out the window.
Agree.
Of course, I also know people who find the "easy target" super drunk chick in the bar and proceed to hit her up while also getting drunk themselves. Not sure where that falls here
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to Navytiger74
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Okay fine. I'm just going off what's available. But I've done a lot of drinking and a lot of drunk fricking, and if I'm physically able to put the work in I'm not too drunk to know what's going on
This, once most guys get to the point of blacking out and losing consciousness you're not performing, hell I think we've all had that point where you're on a date (usually in college) and you start to realize that might be an issue later in the evening and you switch to water- it usually happens after you can't rise to the occasion once (say after a night of knocking back whiskey cokes or trading shots).
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then she's almost assuredly guilty of rape, too
Is there any evidence that he was intoxicated? If he was drunk then yes, sounds like they raped each other.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to Navytiger74
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And as I said, I'm judging this off her one-sided account with the caveat of "if" she's telling the truth.
even with her one-sided account, we still don't know if she said yes. these "black out drunk" rape scenarios always magically end up "black out drunk...except for the crucial 3-5 memories necessary to convict the guy of rape...but i don't remember anything other than that!"
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:11 pm to LSUBoo
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This does not excuse his guilt. Whatsoever.
Excuses for me, but not for thee.
Gotta love women. Simultaneously strong, independent go girls and delicate flowers not responsible for their own actions.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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Single guys are adorable (FTR not in a "navy" way, #NoHomo, #NTTAWWT)
Gay.
NTTAWWT.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:12 pm to VOLhalla
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Is there any evidence that he was intoxicated?
i'm making the slight assumption, based on the description of the party, that he's not the biggest pussy in the world
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:12 pm to Navytiger74
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Right. And as I said, I'm judging this off her one-sided account with the caveat of "if" she's telling the truth.
Even if everything she said is the truth, the parts she can't remember might be her consenting to sex with him, or even initiating it.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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except for the crucial 3-5 memories necessary to convict the guy of rape...but i don't remember anything other than that!"
yet no one bats an eye
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:13 pm to Salmon
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prosecute false rape allegations
Sounds great on the surface, but that is a slippery fricking slope. What if you're legitimately raped, lose in court because it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and then get prosecuted for a false accusation.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to support anything that makes it more difficult for real rape victims to file charges.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
With iphones recording in HD there's really no excuse not to record every encounter.
You know, for "evidence"
You know, for "evidence"
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to LSUBoo
we all do a lot of dumb shite when we are drunk. She might have consented and the guy might have been drunk to, what is to say that she didn't rape him? You are still responsible for your actions when you are drunk. If I drive drunk and get pulled over, I can't blame alcohol affecting my decision to drive and get out of it, if I kill someone when I am drunk, I am still responsible for the aftermath. Why is sex any different?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to LSUBoo
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Harvard
Stopped reading here.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to MorbidTheClown
Were they both drinking at the bar and then left together intoxicated? Because after that if there are no witnesses or physical evidence then its word against word and nothing should come of it.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to slackster
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I'm sorry, but I'm not going to support anything that makes it more difficult for real rape victims to file charges.
And yet that's exactly what false rape allegations do.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:14 pm to slackster
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Sounds great on the surface, but that is a slippery fricking slope. What if you're legitimately raped, lose in court because it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt, and then get prosecuted for a false accusation.
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to support anything that makes it more difficult for real rape victims to file charges.
Too fricking bad. Too many woman have cried wolf over this shite and ruined lives.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:15 pm to GaryMyMan
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With iphones recording in HD there's really no excuse not to record every encounter.
You know, for "evidence"
You can joke, but there have guys that have been saved from malicious women with false accusations because of video.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:15 pm to slackster
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Sounds great on the surface, but that is a slippery fricking slope.
I know...and its the reason nothing can be done at the moment
but frick, something needs to be done
its too easy to ruin or slander someones name by simply yelling "rape!"
rape is a crime in which you are guilty until proven innocent, instead of innocent until proven guilty
with rape, the victim doesn't have to prove you raped her, you have to prove you didn't
rape cases are always arse backwards
Posted on 10/9/15 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm making the slight assumption, based on the description of the party, that he's not the biggest pussy in the world
The only reason he wouldn't be drunk is if he's the biggest pussy in the world? I'd say that going to a party and having the discipline not to get heavily intoxicated is a pretty good trait to have.
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