re: Was It Rape? Or Was It Regrettable Drunk Sex?

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I can tell you for a fact that I've never boned a chick floating while in and out of consciousness.

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Single guys are adorable (FTR not in a "navy" way, #NoHomo, #NTTAWWT)

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smartphone app that uses a mobile breathalyzer to allow parties to prove sobriety enough to sign off on consenting to sex?

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connected via bluetooth to her chastity belt?

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Alcohol is an integral part of the college experience and the society we live in, for better or for worse.

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True, but you have to know your limits.

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Alcohol also makes people more vulnerable.

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Correct, which again is why you must use it responsibly.

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But everyone has the right to get as drunk as they want to without the threat of being raped.

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So if he was blasted too, how is he supposed to know that you are too drunk? Should he not also have the right to get too drunk to not worry about the possibility that you are not in a sound state of mind? Why is it is his responsibility to to protect himself when he is drinking and not yours too?

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Victims did not “put themselves in that situation” as a result of having been drunk.

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If this were true, then public intoxication would not be a crime.

I'm not saying that I can't be empathetic for this person, but it's truly sad that we have created a victim culture totally devoid of personal responsibility.

If both people are blackout drunk it's one thing, if one is and the other's nearly so er it's another.

Also if anyone had sex with her after she passed out, that's kind of unquestionably rape.

Some rapey mofos up in here.

It's a necessary contradiction. Most criminal acts require the mental intent to commit the act in order to be convicted. So what's stopping someone who is interested in robbing a bank from taking some shots before hand and claiming that he only robbed the bank because he was drunk. that he never intended to rob it?

That's why every state has a law stating that criminal intent cannot be denied based on a defendant's willing ingestion of drugs or alcohol. The criminal justice system simply wouldn't work if people could get out of any charge by smoking weed or whatever before the crime.

But if both parties were obviously intoxicated then both could not consent and they both raped each other.

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well the problem is that even assuming that teh guy is 100% sober, she still could have told teh guy yes or even initiated the sex

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Right. And as I said, I'm judging this off her one-sided account with the caveat of "if" she's telling the truth.

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"blacked out" is NOT "unconscious"

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That's fair. I shouldn't have conflated the two. But still, "blacked out" is effectively out on your feet, to borrow a boxing term. You may be moving about, but by the time you're at the point where you aren't going to remember shite, you're generally impaired enough that it's more than noticeable. To casual observers--sober and drunk.

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they both raped each other.

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offsetting penalties

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so if the guy was drunk, they raped each other?

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In her own words...

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In my case, and in many other cases of sexual assault on campus, alcohol played a role for the perpetrator as well. This does not excuse his guilt. Whatsoever.

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So she acknowledges that he was drinking as well. Again, not enough details to know if he was black-out drunk or just buzzed, sort of like the lack of details on how she got him off of her.

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Don't stick your dick in a girl that drunk. It's not that hard.

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Should we tell women "Don't spread your legs when you're drunk. It's not that hard."

Post that on Facebook and let me know how it goes