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re: Walmart wants to go organic; attacks status symbols
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:35 am to Nelson Biederman IV
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:35 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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This is why I'm not really against GMO's.
I'm not either. I just don't use them because my customers would rather not, and I'd prefer not to be beholden to Monsanto or other manufacturers.
Really, I'm only doing what the market dictates. If there wasn't money to be made in my business, I'd find something else to do.
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Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:38 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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Believe it or not there are reputable companies that care about the product they put out and what their consumers are eating,
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:39 am to Volvagia
No, I called you a cynic because of your clear distrust of others. You said " and you think wf suppliers do?" That sounds distrusting. As for wanting to kill people, I don't. Meat is not a necessity. It's something I like to eat, as do most people, but it is most certainly not a necessity. Shenaynay doesn't need that garbage beef she's getting with her EBT card. I don't mind paying more for meat because I don't eat it every day. C.A.F.O proteins aren't sustaining the country.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:40 am to ByteMe
:cynic fistbump:
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:42 am to Volvagia
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:cynic fistbump:
we need a fistbump emoticon.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:42 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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You said " and you think wf suppliers do?" That sounds distrusting.
Oh, that.
Thats not being distrusting.
That's common sense.
You simply cannot distribute volume on the scale of a national chain without living to the letter of the organic label, not the spirit. Its literally impossible.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 2:43 am
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:49 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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Believe it or not there are reputable companies that care about the product they put out and what their consumers are eating, they don't cut corners and that's why it costs more
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:50 am to Volvagia
That comment was directed towards a farmer. I assumed you meant produce suppliers. If you in fact meant produce suppliers, then yes, I believe they can and do. They use a lot of different suppliers depending on what part of the country the store is in. If you're talking about processed items that are distributed nation wide, then I agree.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 2:51 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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That sounds distrusting. As for wanting to kill people, I don't. Meat is not a necessity. It's something I like to eat, as do most people, but it is most certainly not a necessity. Shenaynay doesn't need that garbage beef she's getting with her EBT card. I don't mind paying more for meat because I don't eat it every day. C.A.F.O proteins aren't sustaining the country.
Okay.
Let me spell this one out for you.
Americans will eat meat, and lots of it.
Let's say you outlaw CAFO proteins as you put it.
As a result we need a LOT more land for the same amount of production.
This effects the economics of land use both domestic and abroad. This displaces other agricultural crops, including staples such as grains, this causing a rise in prices.
Ergo, mass third world starvation.
You have to look at the big picture when you consider general rules like that....
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:00 am to Volvagia
I never once said I wanted to outlaw C.A.F.O's. I played along with what you said, but I never once said that. I'm no more for outlawing C.A.F.O's as I am for outlawing non organic farming. It's just a choice I make and I wish others were more educated. A big part of the problem is education. If Americans were better educated about food we would eat less meat and smaller portions and your land usage and ag displacement would be moot. People are dumb and set in their ways and it will probably never change but i still like to hope and so I practice what I preach and try to share with others. I feel like we share a lot of the same sentiments yet some of it is getting lost in translation.
Eta: oh, and this
Eta: oh, and this
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Our Government will subsidize this, it's all good.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 3:03 am
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:01 am to Volvagia
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This effects the economics of land use both domestic and abroad. This displaces other agricultural crops, including staples such as grains, this causing a rise in prices.
Our Government will subsidize this, it's all good.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:08 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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People are dumb and set in their ways and it will probably never change
I've been around a lot of smart people that are also gullible.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:25 am to Nelson Biederman IV
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I never once said I wanted to outlaw C.A.F.O's.
I didn't say you did.
It was a simple way to the point.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:31 am to Volvagia
A point about a hypothetical situation I'm not arguing against. This is arguing for the sake of arguing. I'm going to sleep.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 3:36 am to Volvagia
Some estimates have us discarding 50% of the food produced. With that data outlawing CAFOs could be completed without increasing the area needed just by become smarter about how we manage our food.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 6:11 am to Tiger1242
There is no taste diference between organic and non organic. Edit: I see, WF does have great sandwhiches and other quick pick ups. I go there for that.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 6:15 am
Posted on 4/20/14 at 6:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Whole foods = yoga pants, Walmart = stretchy pants... I'll pay a little extra
Posted on 4/20/14 at 6:47 am to Kankles
Organic buyers still won't step foot in Wal Marks even if it's cheaper
They will pay more for guaranteed quality, a better atmosphere, and well paid employees.
They will pay more for guaranteed quality, a better atmosphere, and well paid employees.
This post was edited on 4/20/14 at 6:48 am
Posted on 4/20/14 at 7:03 am to TheOcean
Exactly.....shopping with slugs is not all that enjoyable. I hit Wallyworld regularly, but sometimes I hit the upscale HEB to uunderstand man has evolved. HEB.....WF. ...same premise but with better prices.
Posted on 4/20/14 at 7:09 am to CharlesLSU
Go to walmart and read the ingredients on just about anything. Now go to WF and read the ingredients on the same product but organic.
At walmart you cant even pronounce half the ingredients. Also count the number of preservative.
Whole foods is night and day better food, better service, better looking people.
I will pay premium just to avoid the preservatives and the people.
At walmart you cant even pronounce half the ingredients. Also count the number of preservative.
Whole foods is night and day better food, better service, better looking people.
I will pay premium just to avoid the preservatives and the people.
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