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re: Vote on moving Baton Rouge Zoo, expanding Greenwood Park expected Today
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:05 am to TROLA
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:05 am to TROLA
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City park is plenty big enough for a small zoo that focuses on certain areas of education. We don't need elephants, we need an awesome reptile and insect venue, we need some bears and tigers with some nice monkey exhibits.. you couple this with turning the ninth hole into an amphitheater, beefing up the art museum and adding a bridge to the knock knock museum. Then you have a really nice public space that will attract visitors year round
The only reason there is talk of a new zoo is because the zoo in its current iteration does not meet the relatively recent stringent federal requirements to keep elephants. That's why they started talking about renovating it in the first place. There will be no new zoo without a new elephant exhibit.
The other thing that want is more classroom space for school and day camp field trip groups. That's where they really make their money. More field trip groups that can be accommodated per day means more money.
The good thing is that with the art museum and Knock Knock museum in place, all 3 bodies can piggyback off of shared resources. They can build one parking garage that serves all of them, bundle tickets for all 3 attractions, have all of their administrative people in the same office, etc. Combine all of this with the BRAF plan for the LSU Lakes and you have a real centerpiece for the city akin to Audubon Park.
I would put the outdoor ampatheatre right across the onramp (where E.Lakeshore intersects Dalrymple) from the Knock-Knock museum. With some big sound barriers and the seats dug into the hill overlooking the lake, it could be an incredible venue, once again piggybacking off of the parking garage that would serve the 3 museums.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:07 am to johnnyrocket
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This the golden rule for "democrats" (I'll let you figure out what "democrats" means)...............................
After you find an idea set it up as a nonprofit where you can scream racism if someone wants to audit you and know where and how the money is being stolen.......
1) tax whitey
2) make restless natives happy
3) have nonprofit make t-shirts on the tax payer whitey's dime , give t-shirts to restless natives to show up in a mandatory day care bus to a council meeting (too bad their grandkids and kids cannot show up to ride this bus to mandatory daycare), and promise a lot, do a little, pocket the rest of the money!
All the while being too stupid to realize that "Whitey" is still, and always will be signing their paychecks and without "Whitey" they would amount to even less than they already have...........
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:07 am to TROLA
Keep the Zoo out of the "Hoods" period. Avoid all the white trash and the thugs. Profit
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:10 am to kingbob
And that's why nothing will ever happen.. the elephant issue is beyond stupid to me.. the chances of BR regaining elephants even with a new zoo aren't good..
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:13 am to TROLA
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the chances of BR regaining elephants even with a new zoo aren't good..
So even if they build a new elephant exhibit to the specifications the federal government calls for, they still might not be able to acquire a pair of elephants to put there? Why is that?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:13 am to BowDownToLSU
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Profit
Zoos do not make a profit. They lose money.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:13 am to kingbob
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The other thing that want is more classroom space for school and day camp field trip groups. That's where they really make their money. More field trip groups that can be accommodated per day means more money.
If they want to make more money off of that, which is perfectly fine, then the BR ZOO needs to be relocated because with all of that "democrat" culcha happening in NBR, nobody in their right mind will send buses of school kids into that area.
It's the harsh reality and the truth. Time for the BR Zoo to find a new home, as far away from NBR as possible!
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:14 am to IT_Dawg
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$150M to relocate a zoo and expand a park??? Seems like some monkey business to me.
The lion's share of that will go to a well-connected contractor.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:17 am to Bmath
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$150M to relocate a zoo and expand a park??? Seems like some monkey business to me.
The lion's share of that will go to a well-connected contractor.
At least someone's willing to address the elephant in the room
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:21 am to kingbob
The growing sentiment is that elephants should not be zoo exihibits. The regulations are becoming cost prohibitive and I just don't see them as fixtures of zoos going forward.
There are quite a few organizations that are putting money behind their voices to chip away at future elephant allocation..
There are quite a few organizations that are putting money behind their voices to chip away at future elephant allocation..
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:24 am to trom83
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Gravy not too happy with thought of the zoo potentially moving
well it would be a longer drive for him when he needs an MRI
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:25 am to TROLA
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The growing sentiment is that elephants should not be zoo exihibits.
F&%k 'em.
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The regulations are becoming cost prohibitive
Cost prohibitive for existing spaces to renovate to accommodate them, but not cost-prohibitive to build green field with those specs in mind. BREC is flush with cash and land.
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There are quite a few organizations that are putting money behind their voices to chip away at future elephant allocation..
f&%k 'em
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:27 am to BilJ
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Gravy not too happy with thought of the zoo potentially moving
well it would be a longer drive for him when he needs an MRI
The current zoo doesn't have a large enough MRI. When a large animal is sick, they have to send them to the LSU Vet School. That's another reason why they want to renovate or move the zoo. They either want to have an MRI machine on the zoo property or be in closer proximity to the LSU Vet school.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:30 am to kingbob
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$150M to relocate a zoo and expand a park??? Seems like some monkey business to me.
The lion's share of that will go to a well-connected contractor.
At least someone's willing to address the elephant in the room
Y'all should quit horsing around with the animal puns. This is serious business.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:31 am to trom83
Most zoo's in other cities derive a large portion of their revenue from corporate events, parties, and wedding receptions.
Guess what, nobody wants to hold these events at the current location. Move the thing and incorporate an event venue and the revenue will be there.
Guess what, nobody wants to hold these events at the current location. Move the thing and incorporate an event venue and the revenue will be there.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:31 am to LSUBoo
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$150M to relocate a zoo and expand a park??? Seems like some monkey business to me.
The lion's share of that will go to a well-connected contractor.
At least someone's willing to address the elephant in the room
Y'all should quit horsing around with the animal puns. This is serious business.
Quit parroting those stale talking points.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:35 am to kingbob
I agree with the frick em but the special/spatial requirements for holding at least 5 elephants ( I believe that's the number) and required staff can be a burden..
If they can make it work and workout the intra zoo procurement through the AZA then I'd love to see them.. I just hate the thought that Elephants are the driving force behind the zoo relocation. I hate that we have a great opportunity and space that is being overlooked based on one animal..
If they can make it work and workout the intra zoo procurement through the AZA then I'd love to see them.. I just hate the thought that Elephants are the driving force behind the zoo relocation. I hate that we have a great opportunity and space that is being overlooked based on one animal..
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:39 am to kingbob
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quote:
$150M to relocate a zoo and expand a park??? Seems like some monkey business to me.
The lion's share of that will go to a well-connected contractor.
At least someone's willing to address the elephant in the room
Y'all should quit horsing around with the animal puns. This is serious business.
Quit parroting those stale talking points.
If I keep laughing at this thread, I'm going to puma pants.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:39 am to TROLA
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I hate that we have a great opportunity and space that is being overlooked based on one animal..
Which space is being specifically overlooked? The existing location stinks. It's only 15 minutes closer than the Audubon zoo for school groups in Livingston & Ascension Parish. It doesn't have near enough classroom space to hold more than two school groups per day. The neighborhood looks like a demilitarized zone.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 10:44 am to kingbob
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The good thing is that with the art museum and Knock Knock museum in place, all 3 bodies can piggyback off of shared resources. They can build one parking garage that serves all of them, bundle tickets for all 3 attractions, have all of their administrative people in the same office, etc. Combine all of this with the BRAF plan for the LSU Lakes and you have a real centerpiece for the city akin to Audubon Park.
I would put the outdoor ampatheatre right across the onramp (where E.Lakeshore intersects Dalrymple) from the Knock-Knock museum. With some big sound barriers and the seats dug into the hill overlooking the lake, it could be an incredible venue, once again piggybacking off of the parking garage that would serve the 3 museums.
While I do kind of like the idea of a move to the City Park area as far as location is concerned, that area is much smaller than where the zoo currently sits especially if you're trying to keep the art museum in place. That's a footprint much smaller than the Audubon Zoo and Houston Zoo sit (used those as examples of interior-city zoos that I knew). Are you including Brooks Park in that footprint?
If the zoo is put there, it in no way would resemble Audubon Park. That facility/area/location, whatever you want to call it, has a zoo, a large park, and a golf course. You'd be left with just a small zoo that would require some well thought out planning/engineering to accommodate parking.
Also, You're talking about adding noises and smells to a residential area that probably won't want it. There would also be water and sewage issues as well.
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