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re: Volkswagen at it again...

Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:45 pm to
I doubt that.

I still haven't seen any details of this failed emissions test.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:49 pm to
This is dumb. EPA has already approved all of the stipulations associated with SCR after treatment.
Posted by CFDoc
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:00 pm to
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While our feckless politicians worry about a bit of a kerfluffle over some superior German engineering, China and India are pouring pollutants into the skies and oceans of the world.

Your Prius means diddly.



Lead and the others will follow.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:20 pm to
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but GM is getting into the diesel market with the 2016 Colorado


It is odd that they have been doing it for years, but only got caught shortly after Chevy started selling the Cruze diesel....(yes, they have been out since 2014...still).
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:20 pm to
I'd love the V10 TDI Toureg, but they don't make them anymore as far as I know.

I've received one letter from VW acknowledging the issue, but no solutions. I know there is a deal to get 2k additional on your trade in right now of it is an affected TDI. Which in the end will be about what you get out of it. But I'm not getting another VW, so that's useless.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:22 pm to
Yea the only reason I'd want one would be if it was a new diesel.

Mine is getting close to end of warranty
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:24 pm to
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it means its a good time to buy a Volkswagon


Went shopping in their lot this past weekend. Nice vehicles and we may both be in one before the end of the year.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:36 pm to
China and India DGAF about emissions. What little amount we're decreasing it by, the rest of the world is increasing it 9000x faster
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:37 pm to
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TDI = They're Damn Innovative


I thought so too.....it turns out that they didn't actually create a clean diesel and were cheating this whole time.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:47 pm to
The government shouldn't be telling the car manufacturers anything about building cars. It's amazing that so few equate the overbearing regulation of the auto industry with the outrageous cost of vehicles.

Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:50 pm to
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I know there is a deal to get 2k additional on your trade in right now of it is an affected TDI. Which in the end will be about what you get out of it. But I'm not getting another VW, so that's useless.


I wonder if they'd let you use the 2k to trade in for a used, non-VW vehicle on their lot?
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 2:58 pm to
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It is odd that they have been doing it for years, but only got caught shortly after Chevy started selling the Cruze diesel....(yes, they have been out since 2014...still).


VW's competitors have either introduced diesels with elaborate, expensive emissions equipment to meet standards or they've opted not to sell a diesels here at all.

That's the bigger injustice here....a significant portion of VW's business in the US was based on a cheat that they used to gain a competitive edge. BMW, Chevrolet, and Toyota have been (as far as we know) playing by the rules.

I imagine most of the customers won't be racing to the dealer to get the recall work complete, as the fix will likely involve equipment that will negatively impact performance, fuel efficiency, and trunk space.
Posted by shiftworker
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Volkswagen at it again... by fr33manator While our feckless politicians worry about a bit of a kerfluffle over some superior German engineering, China and India are pouring pollutants into the skies and oceans of the world. Your Prius means diddly.



This x 1000000000
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:02 pm to
I'm not getting that bandaide shite fix on my car
Posted by crispyUGA
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:04 pm to
VW is just the New England Patriots of the automotive world. Don't hate them 'cause you ain't them.
Posted by NoBoBullDog
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah the Colorado diesel will have a whopping 180 HP! Wow.....
I know I know it's about torque but seems pretty underwhelming considering the premium you'll pay for the engine over a V6 & marginally better MPG.
I really like the Tourege TDI in Bronze but its very expensive & I'm sure the long term upkeep is atrocious on a VW.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 4:14 pm to
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the fix will likely involve equipment that will negatively impact performance, fuel efficiency, and trunk space.
A "fix" that reduces fuel efficiency is EXACTLY something CARB and the EPA would do

I still don't understand how making cars get lower fuel economy to get less emissions works.
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