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re: UK parliament one step closer to passing landmark smoking ban
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:25 am to Indefatigable
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:25 am to Indefatigable
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The government that foots the bill for its citizens healthcare is mitigating the ridiculous cost of care for tobacco-related conditions.
People want universal healthcare here, our government is the largest provider already, but they won’t want to cut out drinking, tobacco and processed foods.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 7:25 am
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Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:25 am to Fat and Happy
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In the US, there would be videos of people getting tazed over not putting the cigarette out when asked
We say that, but heck, the government here unilaterally moved tobacco age from 18 to 21 and nobody really said a word.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:28 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
I get your point, but the problem is the slippery arse fricking slope that comes with that. Cigarettes, okay. What's next though, alcohol? Fast food? Sugars, carbs, etc.? next thing you know it's shite like "hate speech" and shite like that. Once that single inch is taken, the miles down the road come into play.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:30 am to jbgleason
If that’s what makes them happy, good for them. Not every country needs to be like the U.S.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:37 am to TejasHorn
So they are banning figs
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:39 am to Commandeaux
upvoted
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:39 am to Indefatigable
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The government that foots the bill for its citizens healthcare is mitigating the ridiculous cost of care for tobacco-related conditions.
Interesting. Where does the government come upon the money that it can so magnanimously "foot the bill"?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:40 am to CocomoLSU
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next thing you know it's shite like "hate speech"
hate to break the news to you but that's already a thing in England.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:43 am to pankReb
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next thing you know it's shite like "hate speech"
hate to break the news to you but that's already a thing in England.
The Mulsim overlords in Scotland have already started passing, and enforcing, their version of "hate speech". They are banning the things you would expect Muslim leaders to ban. Scottish Progressives and OT Moderates are thrilled at the freedoms they have lost.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:47 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
Poor diet kills far more people than tobacco.
You good with the UK government rolling in and banning sugar, fast food and processed oils?
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:48 am to Solo Cam
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So the same government flooding their country with illegals immigrants which is causing a massive spike in their rape and murders is now restricting the rights of their citizens?
Yeah
It’s not about anyone’s wellbeing
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:50 am to Lima Whiskey
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It’s not about anyone’s wellbeing
Just those in Government who benefit from power.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:54 am to pankReb
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next thing you know it's shite like "hate speech"
hate to break the news to you but that's already a thing in England.
My point was that it won't actually be hate speech (thus the quotations). It'll just be shite that the government thinks you shouldn't say.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:59 am to TejasHorn
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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s
A fine Anglo-Saxon name indeed.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:01 am to TejasHorn
British government should focus on mandatory orthodontic treatment instead.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:18 am to CocomoLSU
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next thing you know it's shite like "hate speech"
Is a jail sentence in England. Call someone a racial, ethnic, sexual or religious slur and you will go to jail.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:31 am to slinger1317
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In a perfect world tobacco would be widely available, but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare, so feel free to smoke yourself to death because you're the only one paying for the health effects.
And anyone obese would have zero access benefits or healthcare.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:34 am to slinger1317
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People will bitch about "muh freedom" but when the gov't pays for your healthcare I think they can have a say on eliminating things that are adverse to people's health.
In a perfect world tobacco would be widely available, but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare, so feel free to smoke yourself to death because you're the only one paying for the health effects.
Cool, now do fat people.
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:36 am to CocomoLSU
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it's shite like "hate speech" and shite like that. Once that single inch is taken, the miles down the road come into play.
It's why I cannot stand actual racism in any form, but I will one hundred percent debate and fight for those moron skin heads and black panthers rights to peacefully protest and spew their vile, putrid message.
If we as a people cannot defeat actual racism in the marketplace of ideas, there are far bigger issues than could ever be solved.
This post was edited on 4/17/24 at 8:37 am
Posted on 4/17/24 at 8:36 am to slinger1317
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but govt wouldn't subsidize healthcare
in!
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