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re: TOPS payments stopped immediately due to state budget crisis

Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:46 pm to
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The absurdity of ridding TOPS without first tightening the requirements first is something I cannot comprehend. I know I have a vested interest in it continuing, but come on.



I completely agree with that.

My original premise in my post still stands - there are not thousands of students like you in Louisiana schools.

You're an elite student, you'll get aid regardless of TOPS.
Posted by jac1280
Member since Dec 2007
5380 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:51 pm to


So am I understanding that a student only needs a 20 on his ACT and 3 B's and 2 C's in his core classes each year in high school and he will get the entry level TOPS award and his tuition paid for????

If so, that is so damn ridiculous. Imagine how much money the state would save if the requirements were a 25 on the ACT and a 3.0 GPA, or am I wrong???
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:53 pm to
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Seems kind of drastic.



Desperate times call for desperate measures. Jindal shielded this middle-class welfare program for eight years and now it's on the table like everything else.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 8:53 pm to
Yes. Compared to Texas where if you aren't in the top of your class you can't even get in. People wonder why Texans are proud of their state. It is awesome. We reward mediocrity
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 9:09 pm
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36302 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Almost directly attributable to state and federal aid forming a massive bubble.

Obviously...

Pull the state + federal aid and the kids that are going to college before the market corrects itself get shafted beyond belief. Not that this is actually going to happen; it's all just political jockeying. TOPS needs to be reworked to reward students who actually stand out academically. Doing away with the program entirely would be a big blow to this already abysmal state.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116111 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:17 pm to
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Should have elected vitter. This is bullshite.


LOL... Vitter is worse Jindhal. We are so fricked.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:30 pm to
When I was 17 the drinking age switched to 21. When I turned 18 I found out nearly every kid that I went to school with got to go for free for no reason other than they were a year younger than me. I lived. These kids will find a way and people that work hard will still be successful.
Posted by Retro
with the homies
Member since Jun 2012
2357 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:30 pm to
Jindal started off with a $1 million surplus and turned it into a $850 million deficit. It really speaks for itself man..
Posted by AgentUtah
Member since Jul 2011
1798 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

So am I understanding that a student only needs a 20 on his ACT and 3 B's and 2 C's in his core classes each year in high school and he will get the entry level TOPS award and his tuition paid for????

If so, that is so damn ridiculous. Imagine how much money the state would save if the requirements were a 25 on the ACT and a 3.0 GPA, or am I wrong???


Agreed. The whole program, while based on good intention, is a major crock of shite. Providing free school for average high school students regardless of their family income is ridiculous. If they want to breed and keep homegrown talent they should have taken that money and invested it in the school systems.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 9:50 pm to
Yea Blanco was a great Governor. Lmao.

The state had a surplus of 17 million for the 04-05 budget.. Then it became 1 billion... Gee what major event occurred in Louisiana in 2005?

The reason we have a deficit is due to oil crashing. When your budget relies on 65 a barrel and it becomes 22 at one point it shouldn't be a shocker to anyone that understands a budget how you would gain a deficit quickly.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56480 posts
Posted on 2/11/16 at 10:51 pm to
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However, cutting it and not grandfathering it out for the current students is straight up thievery




Removing a free benefit is thievery?
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32095 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:13 am to
I don't think it's coming back.

I can't believe Louisiana basically traded TOPS for Medicaid expansion.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116111 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:36 am to
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No, you numbskull. But electing Vitter would mean not electing the idiotic socialist Democrat we have now. So there's that.


The idiots that think any person in charge means a difference are the true idiots. We are the original oil/socialist state. Cut 50% state workers is the way to go.. Won't happen. We get what we sow.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112323 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:50 am to
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quote: What part time job can you make 5-7 grand to pay for this semester in the next month or so whenever any classes that aren't paid for are dropped from the register? The same shite we all did before college welfare frickstick. I know real life blows and all and sorry you got a taste of it before you actually had to start to work....


I don't have tops and haven't used it. I also have worked and paid my way through school out of pocket and through loans the past 4-5 years. Loans that took time to apply and get approved for and money that took time and effort to gain. There is no part time job that gains you 5k in less than a month to continue to go to school this semester.

It must've been nice to pay 300 bucks a class when you went to school pops, but the game has changed so your solution isn't a real one anymore. Cutting the program a month into a semester after zero warning or heads up is some fricked up shite and it has nothing to do with what generation it's happening to.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15319 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 12:59 am to
I have said this multiple times on this board and no one wants to believe it. They are too happy filling up their tacomas for 20 dollars.

Fwiw. I got tops for four years. Went to school for six and still got my bs in general studies. Also work in O&G.

OT's worst enemy.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:09 am to
quote:

kids go from potential doctors, lawyers,engineers, teachers etc, to being stuck in the plants or McDonald's
What? I understand the frustration with this situation, but many states do not have anything like TOPS. Yet, their brightest are still becoming Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, etc.

In other words, future physicians aren't relegated to McDonalds because of some scholarship program with mediocre standards.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35316 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 1:43 am to
There's a lot of idiots in this thread bragging about working their way through school before tops.

Newsflash gramps, a minimum wage 20 hour per week job covered about 80% of the cost of going to LSU each year.

That same job today gets you a semester and books. Thats it. No rent, utilities, groceries or gas.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:00 am to
quote:

That same job today gets you a semester and books. Thats it. No rent, utilities, groceries or gas.


It's impossible to pay your way through school today. Hopefully LSU and Edwards work together to make this budget painful enough that it forces the legislature to revise the constitution.
Posted by Tounces
The Place
Member since Jul 2010
2150 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:17 am to
I'm just getting in this but aren't y'all glad y'all voted in this stupid frick?
Posted by Tounces
The Place
Member since Jul 2010
2150 posts
Posted on 2/12/16 at 2:20 am to
Saban is racist
This post was edited on 2/12/16 at 2:21 am
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