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re: The double standard that exists for women regarding sex and kids.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:27 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:27 pm to Napoleon
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A guy sleeps with a lot of women and he's a pimp. We congratulate him and praise him and ridicule the guys who don't get laid a lot.
On the other hand a woman is a slut if she sleeps around, but on the OT and in life it goes even further.
Few people have a problem with a girl who sleeps around with a lot of guys provided she does so responsibly and doesn't contract any diseases or get pregnant. What women don't get is that guys actually like sluts as long as they aren't diseased.
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So she has sex, get's pregnant and either outcome, according to our standards is now trashy because she had sex and the guy didn't pull out, or the birth control didn't work. Is the guy who knocked her up trashy? Of course not.
False, a guy who irresponsibly has unprotected sex and conceives a child before moving on is the definition of trashy.
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I see so many post where posters shite on women who have kids early, yet they also oppose abortions, so what do they want the woman to do? Never have sex?
Just make their partners wear a condom or use the birth control pill. If they do get pregnant and they can't care for the child, put it up for adoption. Just whatever you do, don't make an innocent child pay for poor decision making.
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:27 pm to Swoopin
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Is the guy who knocked her up trashy? Of course not.
I disagree. I expect most do too? Your whole thing falls apart if you're wrong about this.
A guy is trashy for having sex and getting a girl pregnant if they are not married? It almost leads me to believe most would prefer they get secret abortions.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:32 pm to bisonduck
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However, I am not so sure there really is even a "double standard."
Seriously? I'm talking about the OT. Where a woman who has kids before marriage is a whore and all single moms are sluts.
Me in real life? I don't care or pay this any mind. Just a saw a few threads that made me think of how women are "damaged goods" once they have kids, yet aborters are even worse.
FWIW I think it's acceptable for a woman to abort if she is not ready to have a baby, or is not in a relationship. Though I would prefer they have it and adopt it out, it's not my body to tell them to keep it.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:32 pm to lsunurse
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Be responsible for her own birth control. A single woman should never leave birth control up to the man. Condoms should be about preventing STDs with a new guy, not used solely as birth control. Any smart single women is on the pill already or using another form of birth control(IUD, diaphragm, etc).
See lads, women really are capable of understanding the subject.
Don't screw stupid women who aren't capable of understanding it.
God, there are so many stupid fricking people in the world, there's no hope for stemming the ever rising tide of bastards.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:33 pm to Napoleon
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A guy is trashy for having sex and getting a girl pregnant if they are not married?
Um. Yes?
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:34 pm to kingbob
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False, a guy who irresponsibly has unprotected sex and conceives a child before moving on is the definition of trashy.
Have you ever had unprotected sex? I mean come on, is everyone here that holy now?
I admit to not wearing condoms often in college. It feels better. One of those times could have led to much worse. But now you want me to believe that the same people who call women who get knocked up "trashy" also think men who don't wear condoms are trashy? OK.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:35 pm to efrad
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A guy is trashy for having sex and getting a girl pregnant if they are not married?
Um. Yes?
Are you saying all premarital sex is trashy, or only when you don't wear a condom?
Are you saying you have only ever had safe sex and have never gone bare back with a girl you weren't married to?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:37 pm to Napoleon
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Are you saying all premarital sex is trashy, or only when you don't wear a condom?
I'm saying getting a girl pregnant if you're not married/committed is trashy.
It's the consequence, not the action, that determines whether or not the person is trashy. Is that fair? No, not really, but that's how it is. I would feel no shame banging a bunch of sluts without a condom, but the second I knock one up or get the clap I will feel ashamed and trashy.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 6:37 pm to Napoleon
I did all of the above but I'm trashy
Posted on 12/1/15 at 7:23 pm to Napoleon
Don't care; had sex 
Eta: I've got two dryers at my house that don't work if you want them. Can't remember what's wrong with them, but I think one stopped blowing hot air, and the other stopped spinning (not broken belt). Going to the dump when I get a chance if not
Eta: I've got two dryers at my house that don't work if you want them. Can't remember what's wrong with them, but I think one stopped blowing hot air, and the other stopped spinning (not broken belt). Going to the dump when I get a chance if not
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 9:52 pm to efrad
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It's the consequence, not the action, that determines whether or not the person is trashy. Is that fair? No, not really, but that's how it is. I would feel no shame banging a bunch of sluts without a condom, but the second I knock one up or get the clap I will feel ashamed and trashy.
No, it's the lack of precaution that makes it trashy. Imagine you work on a construction site. You could work for an entire year without a hard hat on and be completely fine, but that one day you walk underneath a scaffold and someone drops a wrench from 100' up and it falls on your head, you're dead.
Premarital sex isn't necessarily trashy, but unsafe sex is dangerous. Once one gets a serious STD, they are trashy because STDs are trashy (they're like the tribal arm band tattoos of the medical world).
Getting someone pregnant out of wedlock is a little trashy, but owning up to it and making a commitment to marry the girl or at least be a parent to the child is redemptive. Just running out on both of them is the epitome of trashy behavior.
Being "trashy" is all about not caring what people think of you and avoiding negative consequences of irresponsible actions. Being too irresponsible to wear a condom when having sex with women to which one is unwilling to make any commitment with and them disappearing the second a consequence rears its head is the pinnacle of human trash.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:02 pm to Hammertime
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Eta: I've got two dryers at my house that don't work if you want them. Can't remember what's wrong with them, but I think one stopped blowing hot air, and the other stopped spinning (not broken belt). Going to the dump when I get a chance if not
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:24 pm to Napoleon
quote:the people who do that are selfish individuals. Not much you can "do" about it but warn your daughters and call pigs out when they act like pigs.
Why do we allow such double standards to exist? I just never got how it was we condemn women for an act we praise the fellow guys for.
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:25 pm to Napoleon
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:16 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Momma's baby-Poppa's maybe
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:21 pm to lsunurse
Pretty sure the pill is ineffective Intravaginally
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:21 pm to Napoleon
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so what do they want the woman to do? Never have sex?
Do they personally abstain?
who cares. be the best you can be, that's all you can do. the rest will take care of itself
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:35 pm to Napoleon
Hey, if a woman wants to risk getting preg, catching a desease, having a baby without a truely commited father that will support her and the child. Then by all means bang away. I mean hey look what its done for the black community
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:39 am to 1234567k
quote:Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself.
Hey, if a woman wants to risk getting preg, catching a desease, having a baby without a truely commited father that will support her and the child. Then by all means bang away. I mean hey look what its done for the black community
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