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Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:19 pm to rickgrimes
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Price per kWh varies by location and time of the day.
So how much would you ballpark a full charge from say 10% cost at a super charger? I'm just genuinely curious as I have no idea at all.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:20 pm to idlewatcher
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I'm assuming they charge you to use their charger? How much is it for the quick charge?
depends on the charger. my boss and i were curious about the differences on our experience with a pretty fuel efficient car and his tesla when we met for a trip in South Texas last year so we timed our stops and kept books on the amount spent.
last year i drove from Temple, Texas to South Brownsville in a ford escape. I filled up for $40 before i left. $20 for running around after i got there, and $40 on the way back. $100 on about a 900 mile trip. spent less than 20 minutes at gas stations.
my boss left from San Antonio. Stopped for 40 minutes in Kingville to charge for $15. Got to Brownsville, asked me to pick him up to meet a customer. Took 30 minutes to charge and $8. We then went to the island. he ran around on the island for our conference. then he asked me to drop him off at a charger for an hour and cost him $10. then we left. he made it to kingsville and spent 30 minutes and $15 charging. about 650 miles, $45, 2.5 hours charging
Tesla: 650 miles, $45, 2.5 hours
Ford Escape: 900 miles, $100, 20 minutes
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:26 pm to IAmNERD
quote:We increased production by 30% in just one decade (the 90s), I think we can easily do it again over several decades.
First of all that really is a lot.
quote:I said "passenger vehicles" because it'll probably take 30 years to get most of them EV, trucks will take much longer. So go ahead and do your 50-100 year projections on that and get back to me.
Secondly, it's not going to be just "passenger vehicles". Count how many "freight" vehicles you see on a 1 hour commute on any interstate in the country and get back with us.
quote:Well I didn't say that, did I? The overnight example was to illustrate the total production increase required, and my post went on to say the EV transition will take multiple decades rather than one night.
To say it isn't going to be a major tax on the grid if everything were to change overnight is just dumb.
These threads always bring out all the dumbasses.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:27 pm to rickgrimes
I've heard that the supercharging sites are not good for the battery system of the vehicle.
And this is coming from an engineer friend who manages the charging stations being installed here in the US.
He said the best way to charge ev's is trickle charging at home.
And this is coming from an engineer friend who manages the charging stations being installed here in the US.
He said the best way to charge ev's is trickle charging at home.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:30 pm to Loup
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Would be nice for the commuting and shorter trips.
What makes it nicer than an ICE for the same? ICEs are cheaper. So is the insurance. You don't lose driving range in the winter. What's the advantage for you to say 'nice.'
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:31 pm to i am dan
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I've heard that the supercharging sites are not good for the battery system of the vehicle.
That is correct, but it's pretty minimal unless you're hitting a SC every day to top off. Fast charging leads to more degradation, but you really gotta go overboard to have a noticeable difference.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:33 pm to rickgrimes
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:33 pm to Enadious
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What makes it nicer than an ICE for the same? ICEs are cheaper. So is the insurance. You don't lose driving range in the winter. What's the advantage for you to say 'nice.'
Leaving the house everyday with a full “tank” would be nice.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:33 pm to Enadious
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What makes it nicer than an ICE for the same?
It drives itself.
quote:A comparable car would be about the same.
ICEs are cheaper.
quote:Ours went down going from a 17 IS350 to a 22 Model 3.
So is the insurance.
quote:meh, I live in Houston.
You don't lose driving range in the winter.
quote:It drives itself and it's fast AF.
What's the advantage for you to say 'nice.'
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:35 pm to bad93ex
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Fights at Tesla superchargers should be trending on Twitter/TikTok soon
Not likely to be a big issue until Dodge gets heavily into EV’s.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:42 pm to Enadious
quote:Charging a commuter car at home means zero hours spent "filling up" vs maybe 4 hours per year spent waiting at a gas station.quote:What makes it nicer than an ICE for the same? ICEs are cheaper. So is the insurance. You don't lose driving range in the winter. What's the advantage for you to say 'nice.'
Would be nice for the commuting and shorter trips.
Also just because you can buy cheaper ICE cars doesn't mean they're cheaper for what you get.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:44 pm to Midget Death Squad
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It's never taken me more than 15 minutes to fully charge at the Winn Dixie in Metairie.
perfect place and time to rub one out while you wait.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:45 pm to rickgrimes
Now do gas stations
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:49 pm to TROLA
quote:Then after that do home EV chargers
Now do gas stations
Posted on 5/1/23 at 1:58 pm to Enadious
quote:
What makes it nicer than an ICE for the same? ICEs are cheaper. So is the insurance. You don't lose driving range in the winter. What's the advantage for you to say 'nice.'
100 mile daily commute, It'd be nice leaving the house with a full tank every day. Also, they are comfy AF to ride in. I spend a lot of time on the road so I want something nice.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:06 pm to Korkstand
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Then after that do home EV chargers
Home chargers don’t help travel, especially commercial. That seems to be the sustainability issue
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:11 pm to TROLA
quote:So then are we excluding gas stations that are off the beaten path nowhere near a major highway?
Home chargers don’t help travel, especially commercial.
quote:What?
That seems to be the sustainability issue
Posted on 5/1/23 at 3:05 pm to holdem Tiger
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So how much does it generally cost, and how far does that move you?
I paid $10.72 for about 75% charge which is around 200 to 230 miles depending on driving speeds.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:15 pm to TROLA
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Home chargers don’t help travel, especially commercial. That seems to be the sustainability issue
Commercial is going to be a long term solution. Less batteries and maybe more something like electrified roads. Electrifying the interstate system would be pretty neat and make a lot of road trips not need charging stops for everyone.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 4:16 pm
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