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re: Tesla Supercharging Network: How it started; how it's going
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:28 pm to Midget Death Squad
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:28 pm to Midget Death Squad
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It's never taken me more than 15 minutes to fully charge at the Winn Dixie in Metairie
enough time for three bud lights.
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Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:39 pm to Dam Guide
quote:A lot of folks will scoff at this idea but it is already in the works by several companies with proof of concept pilot programs running. And IMO it should be coupled with crypto payments for anonymity.
Less batteries and maybe more something like electrified roads. Electrifying the interstate system would be pretty neat and make a lot of road trips not need charging stops for everyone.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:45 pm to Midget Death Squad
What does a Supercharger cost per mile to recharge?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:47 pm to TigerTatorTots
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What does a Supercharger cost per mile to recharge?
Depends on the $/kWh but at .25/kWh, call is $.05 a mile.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:49 pm to Cosmo
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Tesla Supercharging Network: How it started; how it's going by Cosmo
Still have to sit around for 20-30 minutes not even to fully charge
Most people charge at home. If you're charging to get gome why would you fully charge?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:56 pm to Korkstand
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We increased production by 30% in just one decade (the 90s), I think we can easily do it again over several decades
But I the context of your post I was responding to, you said it could be done overnight...
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:58 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
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can't wait for all the oil baws to chime in
can't wait for all 250+ million vehicles on the road to try to use that
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:04 pm to 3nOut
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Tesla: 650 miles, $45, 2.5 hours
Ford Escape: 900 miles, $100, 20 minutes
so quick math
Tesla: $0.07/mi
Ford Escape: $0.11/mi
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:10 pm to IAmNERD
quote:I said we have the capacity to do it, as in if EV charging were to fill low demand periods (as it currently overwhelmingly does) then we have enough excess capacity to support that today. Of course *not* all EV charging will take place at night, so some additional capacity will be required to handle higher peak demand periods. We have multiple decades to resolve this.
But I the context of your post I was responding to, you said it could be done overnight...
The point is this "the grid can't handle it" argument is way overblown, and the parts of the grid that require upgrades require them even absent EVs.
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This argument is almost always used as a reason to *slow* EV adoption, but that is stupid. No power company is going to overbuild to prep for future demand. Demand forces supply.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:12 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Tesla: $0.07/mi
Ford Escape: $0.11/mi
Pretty close.
For fleet planning purposes:
ICE - .11/mile
Hybrid - .10/mile
EV - .06/mile
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:16 pm to jmarto1
quote:Because if we don't act like every charge requires an hour of our time and costs the same per mile as gas instead of the much more typical 10 seconds of time to recharge and less than half the cost of gas per mile, then what do we have left to complain about?
Most people charge at home. If you're charging to get gome why would you fully charge?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:20 pm to alphaandomega
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Using electricity derived from fossil fuels (for the most part).
sooooo green!!!
The current balance in the US is about 60/40. So indeed the majority of electricity is produced from fossil fuels. However, due to higher efficiencies on the EV side they are more efficient at turning a BTU of fossil fuel into forward motion.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:21 pm to rickgrimes
Still none along or south of US 90 in Houma or Port Fourchon or Grand Isle.
Imagine going to Venice in an EV, especially using Ford F-150 Lightning towing a boat. You might make it down to Venice, but you not making it back to the city with your Bass boat in tow.
Imagine going to Venice in an EV, especially using Ford F-150 Lightning towing a boat. You might make it down to Venice, but you not making it back to the city with your Bass boat in tow.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:22 pm to billjamin
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Tesla: 650 miles, $45, 2.5 hours Ford Escape: 900 miles, $100, 20 minutes
We also should recognize the additional time (7.5x longer with charging) as another opportunity cost with the different fuel. What's the value of saving 2+ hours, either if you're vacationing or visiting clients or could otherwise be earning revenue? Time and lost opportunity cost is likely more valuable than saving $0.04 per mile.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:25 pm to Dam Guide
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Commercial is going to be a long term solution. Less batteries and maybe more something like electrified roads. Electrifying the interstate system would be pretty neat and make a lot of road trips not need charging stops for everyone.
We can't even fill potholes and any road expansion/improvement project takes years, or even decades.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:25 pm to GoIrish02
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We also should recognize the additional time (7.5x longer with charging) as another opportunity cost with the different fuel. What's the value of saving 2+ hours, either if you're vacationing or visiting clients or could otherwise be earning revenue? Time and lost opportunity cost is likely more valuable than saving $0.04 per mile.
Fair analysis. EV crushes the ICE over any time period besides a single road trip.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
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We can't even fill potholes and any road expansion/improvement project takes years, or even decades.
Completely different issue. One is privately owned, the other isn't.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:29 pm to billjamin
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Completely different issue. One is privately owned, the other isn't.
If you think any roadwork is going to be done without the government taking lead and hiring the companies to do the work you're dreaming.
Anyone who puts any faith into anything to do with infrastructure in this country at this point in time is kidding themselves. shite is falling down around our ears and people want to electrify roadways.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:33 pm to billjamin
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EV crushes the ICE over any time period besides a single road trip.
But if a driver is losing ~2 hours every week on his client visits in the example above, that opportunity cost will always beat any per mile savings waiting on recharging.
If one values their vacation time at the same, if not greater, per hour cost than work, losing hours charging and time arranging charging locations, the nominal savings don't seem worth it.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 5:36 pm to GoIrish02
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But if a driver is losing ~2 hours every week on his client visits in the example above, that opportunity cost will always beat any per mile savings waiting on recharging.
The point is that weekly supercharging is a frequency that impacts less than .1% of Tesla vehicles. The vast majority of them hit SCs a couple times a year and many never at all. Therefore, the majority of people spend way less time a year dicking around with refueling EVs than ICE.
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