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re: St. George backers nervous about 'Frontline'
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:08 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:08 pm to CottonWasKing
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I'm neither a proponent or an opponent of St. George
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If I had kids who had to go to this shitty school district I'd probably feel the same
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I quite frankly couldn't give a shite
You're a model citizen.
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:09 pm to CottonWasKing
Why aren't the small government conservatives in St. George pushing for privatization instead of expecting government to provide better government schools?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:09 pm to 805tiger
Aren't you a product of AP schools?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:11 pm to Topwater Trout
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Aren't you a product of AP schools?
No, Westbank schools until Katrina where I moved to California for high school....
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:12 pm to BRgetthenet
Well I'm not planning on raising children in a city with the crime rate that Baton Rouge has. But hey thats just me
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:15 pm to CottonWasKing
I repeat
How, exactly? I live in the St. George zone and I don't care what color the kids are who go to his school, just as long as they live in this neighborhood. There's no reason for all of this bussing everywhere.
So, opponents of the St. George breakaway, what do you have to say about this?
How, exactly? I live in the St. George zone and I don't care what color the kids are who go to his school, just as long as they live in this neighborhood. There's no reason for all of this bussing everywhere.
So, opponents of the St. George breakaway, what do you have to say about this?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:18 pm to Jagoff
I say that if race isn't an issue with you then you're in the minority on this one and I think you know god damn well that that's the case. Don't be dense
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:26 pm to CottonWasKing
Ok, well what's wrong with my reasoning? Why is it so wrong for me to want only kids who live in my neighborhood attending the school in my neighborhood?
Honestly I could do without the breakaway, I just think kids should attend whatever school's zone they live in. What's so wrong with that?
Honestly I could do without the breakaway, I just think kids should attend whatever school's zone they live in. What's so wrong with that?
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:27 pm to Box Geauxrilla
For all of you who are assuming st.George schools would be "lily-white", census data shows otherwise. The school age population within the boundaries of st.George is 50/50.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:30 pm to Sprocket46
Well if that's the case, what's w/ all the transfer busses? I went to one of those "Better Together" meetings and nobody there could answer my questions, either.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:44 pm to CottonWasKing
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I'm not saying its the main driving force but if you're saying that race plays NO part at all then you're laughably delusional
Agreed
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:50 pm to CottonWasKing
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St George is about rich white people wanting to live and send their children to school with other rich white people. Thats fine if that's what you want to do but don't act like it has nothing to do with race
Did you read the part about Gardere lane being a part of St. George?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:53 pm to DelU249
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lilly white
Racist.
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Why do "rich" white people not want their children in school with black people?
I doubt you will get the honest answer, but you'll be called a racist.
PBS is going to make a really fair show...
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:54 pm to Jagoff
What exactly, is your question?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:57 pm to CottonWasKing
You can't keep saying race is a part of this without some kind of opinion as to why.
Since you KNOW, why don't you just tell us
I do think it has racial elements, but to say it is because they're black is stupid especially without anything, even personal speculation, to support your conclusion.
The kids making the schools shitty and unsafe are black, I don't think the parents give two shits about the black part. Race is the discussion we should be having adjacent to this issue. Clearly if all the underperforming kids, impoverished and criminal are represented by so predominantly by one race then we should investigate why. In the meantime, st george parents don't want to fund shitty schools. The schools do in fact blow. They live a considerable distance, so why shouldn't they be taken at their word? No one goes through all of this trouble because they dislike black skin tone.
Since you KNOW, why don't you just tell us
I do think it has racial elements, but to say it is because they're black is stupid especially without anything, even personal speculation, to support your conclusion.
The kids making the schools shitty and unsafe are black, I don't think the parents give two shits about the black part. Race is the discussion we should be having adjacent to this issue. Clearly if all the underperforming kids, impoverished and criminal are represented by so predominantly by one race then we should investigate why. In the meantime, st george parents don't want to fund shitty schools. The schools do in fact blow. They live a considerable distance, so why shouldn't they be taken at their word? No one goes through all of this trouble because they dislike black skin tone.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:11 pm to Jagoff
If you would take a second to look at the school zone maps you would see that kids are going to their "neighborhood" schools.
Bussing went away with the desegregation case. It just seems like bussing exist b/c most of the people in SE BR have chosen to not participate in the system over the past 30 years. Therefore no need to build new schools in the growing areas. Instead stretch the boundaries to cover areas where no one is participating just in case some chose to particpate. According to these maps almost everyone that goes to Woodlawn lives in the unincorporated area. Yet we have been lead to believe that when the Utopia of St. George is formed these same students will go from failing to enlightened. It will be a truly amazing transformation.
If the stooges of St. George were serious about improving schools then they would realize that they form a large enough voting block to vote in school board members, council members, state representatives, and a mayor that supports independent school districts. Once they get their people in office, they can show that they are serious about public education and participate in the sytem by voting on taxes to build new schools, taking their kids out of the private private schools and putting them in the new neighborhood schools.
The system is not the problem it's who's participating in the system that is the problem. When you have 80% of kids participating in the school system live below poverty level you will NEVER have good schools.
Bussing went away with the desegregation case. It just seems like bussing exist b/c most of the people in SE BR have chosen to not participate in the system over the past 30 years. Therefore no need to build new schools in the growing areas. Instead stretch the boundaries to cover areas where no one is participating just in case some chose to particpate. According to these maps almost everyone that goes to Woodlawn lives in the unincorporated area. Yet we have been lead to believe that when the Utopia of St. George is formed these same students will go from failing to enlightened. It will be a truly amazing transformation.
If the stooges of St. George were serious about improving schools then they would realize that they form a large enough voting block to vote in school board members, council members, state representatives, and a mayor that supports independent school districts. Once they get their people in office, they can show that they are serious about public education and participate in the sytem by voting on taxes to build new schools, taking their kids out of the private private schools and putting them in the new neighborhood schools.
The system is not the problem it's who's participating in the system that is the problem. When you have 80% of kids participating in the school system live below poverty level you will NEVER have good schools.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:24 pm to CottonWasKing
who cares if it is about race?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:24 pm to armytiger96
How do they form a larger voting block? Get people to move back for better schools in what 1 yr, 2yrs, 5yrs, 10yrs?
You have the answers so tell me how do you get people to move back to a city with the same (if not worse) problems it had when they decided to move.
You have the answers so tell me how do you get people to move back to a city with the same (if not worse) problems it had when they decided to move.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:27 pm to CottonWasKing
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to part with Baton Rouge.
Here's your problem. St. George isn't "parting" with Baton Rouge. It never was part of Baton Rouge to begin with. Unincorporated areas incorporate all the time...but rarely with people like yourself making such a big deal of it.
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You want your kids yo go to some lilly white school
You do realize that the Gardere area makes up a pretty sizable portion of the population under this incorporation, right?
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:29 pm to Box Geauxrilla
Anyone who has been down Oneal would know that they aren't segmenting out a certain race.
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