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Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:04 am to stelly1025
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You and all the pussies on this board need to STFU about this... I have seen someone get their hand fricked because he tried to break up a lab and German Shepard. A Pit Bull is not for everyone and there are morons who own them ,but in the right home they are really great dogs. Any medium or large breed dog can turn aggressive due to poor/no socialization, little to no exercise, and poor/no training.
So you just ignore the overwhelming evidence for aggression by pits? Let me guess, you or someone in your family has a lovable and harmless pit bull, right?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:04 am to Epic Cajun
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How do you prove that it's not a service animal?
ETA: I'll answer for you. You can't, because you can't require them to provide documentation, and a service dog can be any breed. All the dog owner has to do is answer two questions:
Is the dog a service dog?
What task does the dog perform?
Correct. Maybe this will help you clarify things:
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SERVICE DOG VS. EMOTIONAL SUPPORT ANIMAL An Emotional Support Animal (ESA) is an animal that, by its very presence, mitigates the emotional or psychological symptoms associated with a handler's condition or disorder. The animal does NOT need to be trained to perform a disability-specific task. All domesticated animals (dogs, cats, birds, reptiles, hedgehogs, rodents, mini-pigs, etc.) may serve as an ESA. The only legal protections an Emotional Support Animal has are 1) to fly with their emotionally or psychologically disabled handler in the cabin of an aircraft and 2) to qualify for no-pet housing. No other public or private entity (motels, restaurants, stores, etc.) is required to allow your ESA to accompany you and in all other instances, your ESA has no more rights than a pet. You'll also need to be prepared to present a letter to airlines and property managers from a licensed mental health professional stating that you are emotionally disabled and that he/she prescribes for you an emotional support animal. If you do not have a letter of prescription and are unable to get one, we recommend that you consider Chilhowee Psychological Services. This agency offers legitimate psychometric testing, assessment, diagnosis, AND a letter of prescription from a licensed mental health professional. Click here to view their website. A final note: Some animals are innately able to predict the onset of a physical or psychiatric event or crisis, effectively enabling the handler to prevent or minimize the event. This is an ability that usually cannot be trained - some animals are simply born with the ability to sense the onset of the event. These types of animals, although not otherwise task-trained, are considered "working" service animals.
The other component you haven't referred to is that your dog must be controlled. Your ESA dog cannot walk around my restaurant. Your working service dog usually lays down or stays where it is told.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:16 am to jmarto1
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The other component you haven't referred to is that your dog must be controlled. Your ESA dog cannot walk around my restaurant. Your working service dog usually lays down or stays where it is told.
This has nothing to do with my statement. All I said is that it can be any breed of dog, and you can't ask them to prove anything.
ETA: Basically, if they want to admit that it isn't a service dog you can keep them out, but if they do a little bit of research on the matter (and don't mind manipulating the situation), they can bring their dog in your restaurant and you can't do shite about it.
ETA2: just showing how ridiculous the laws are regarding service dogs. I don't agree that they are good, but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:23 am to ClientNumber9
There are two questions you can ask the owner to discern whether it is a service dog or not.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:28 am to FutureMikeVIII
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You have no clue what you're talking about. Stop spreading ignorance.
Sorry but your big fat wife does not need a service dog for the PTSD she got from sitting on a box of Crispy Cream donuts but still eating them.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:35 am to Geauxgurt
Freaking adults with service dogs. They may as well be walking around with a pacifier in their mouth.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:42 am to CaptainBrannigan
The frick does that even mean? Are you too stupid to know the difference between type 1 and type 2 diabetes?
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:44 am to Geauxgurt
While we are regulating everything else, why not require a 1 million Dollar insurance policy for these type dogs? Dirt cheap if it is a Labrador, or some other Docile breed. Very very expensive if it's a pitbull type breed. Mandate it like you would automobile insurance.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:48 am to Epic Cajun
Agreed. It is why businesses need to be educated on this and the vast majority are not. Most people trying to skirt the system with a purchased badge do not have control of their animal. That's how I take care of the issue.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 11:55 am to IceTiger
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It's all how you're raised... (or programmed)
While incredibly important, this isn't universally true. Dogs, some breeds more than others, can be unpredictable in spite of their raising,traIning, or programming. Common sense should always be applied when having dogs capable of harm.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:11 pm to Geauxgurt
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So you just ignore the overwhelming evidence for aggression by pits? Let me guess, you or someone in your family has a lovable and harmless pit bull, right?
I got boxers which morons constantly ask me if they are Pit Bulls ,because they are white... I have known people who have Pit Bulls and they are great dogs ,but they were raised and cared for properly. The problem is when trashy people get ahold of them which are way too many ,but that can be any medium or large size dog. The only dog I have ever gotten bit by was a medium sized mut. I am not saying you have to get one ,but all of you need to stop acting sissies when you see one.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:14 pm to stelly1025
The service dog craze is somewhat out of control. Everyone has one it seems.
The outrage over pit bulls is also out of control. Some of the time, people can't even identify the breed. When they can correctly spot one, they freak out like the dog is a damn grizzly bear.
With that said, posting about it on the OT is definitely the proper course of action.
The outrage over pit bulls is also out of control. Some of the time, people can't even identify the breed. When they can correctly spot one, they freak out like the dog is a damn grizzly bear.
With that said, posting about it on the OT is definitely the proper course of action.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:32 pm to Geauxgurt
Denver airport uses pits as service animals to walk by thouands of potential victims every day and sniff for drugs. These vicious animals haven't claimed a victim yet.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:34 pm to LSUAfro
We were at IKEA in Charlotte, NC last week and there was a grey pit bull service dog in ther with a woman, her boyfriend and their kid who was about 4-5 yrs old
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:37 pm to Geauxgurt
Service dogs are bullshite. If I had a business I would ban them.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:41 pm to LakeViewLSU
You could not due to ADA
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:43 pm to jmarto1
What if I'm allergic to dogs? Can't be around them.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 12:52 pm to Geauxgurt
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Pits are not a breed used as service dogs. It may have been, but it was very disrespectful to every singe other person in that store to bring that dog there.
What? On what planet is that "disrespectful". You can say it's a dick move, because slapping a vest on your dog to bring it places is a douchebag move, but I don't get the disrespectful part.
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