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re: Scales tipped against college?
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:20 pm to EA6B
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:20 pm to EA6B
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I went to public universities on scholarships because that is what my family could afford, remarkably I still managed to get married and have lifelong friends. If a students family can afford private school fine, otherwise none of these things are a rational justification for borrowing 100K to get a undergrad degree if a similar degree can be obtained for a more reasonable cost at a public university.
If someone wants to go public or private then good for them. All I am saying is the choice is a personal decision and there is not an inherent "right v. wrong". From purely an economical standpoint, then almost everyone should go to the local public university but that is clearly not the right fit for many.
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:28 pm to Breauxsif
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Luckily, I have no...wife which is...by choice,
Dude.
I studied hard shite and travel for work ...probably wouldn't consider myself as successful as you since I left that coast to get married...but damn, don't stand in your own way of happiness. You thinking that 'it will come when I have time for it' shows a lack of understanding when it comes to real life.
I apologize if this is off base, but damn that sentence is hard to read. Too many friends went down that path.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:36 pm to Hammertime
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know two people from HS that went to LSU, but were in remedial math classes. That's like 5th grade math.
Somewhat unrelated, but several years back I had an old friend who was a student at Delgado taking remedial math. He showed me some of his homework. It was shocking to me what a low level it was. Simple single variable equations like 2x-7=15. If you are 18 years old and that far behind I don't see how you could ever hope to get a college degree or even more basic societal functions.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:39 pm to Halftrack
you don't start making $80K as a plumber.
and its hard shitty work.
and its hard shitty work.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:49 pm to lynxcat
Excellent info!
The UCLA program sounds very legit. I wouldn't mind the trip to LA. The Foster School of Business is where we get our Product candidates from ironically.
We get subsidized up to $92,000 to complete an MBA in 2 years. The hardest part is finding the right fit. I'll definitely look into your recommendations. It sounds like you've researched this avenue fully.
The UCLA program sounds very legit. I wouldn't mind the trip to LA. The Foster School of Business is where we get our Product candidates from ironically.
We get subsidized up to $92,000 to complete an MBA in 2 years. The hardest part is finding the right fit. I'll definitely look into your recommendations. It sounds like you've researched this avenue fully.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:54 pm to Breauxsif
Up to $92k is subsidies is amazing! I wish my employer would put that kind of money towards my program.
The other top program on the West coast for part time working professionals is Haas (Cal Berkley). I think it is only in-person and is a three year program.
The other top program on the West coast for part time working professionals is Haas (Cal Berkley). I think it is only in-person and is a three year program.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 8:56 am
Posted on 7/24/16 at 6:59 pm to Peazey
quote:people on here exaggerate the frick out of blue collar salaries
The median income for plumbers, pipefitters, and steam fitters for 2015 was very close to $50k.
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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At the same time, more and more jobs that shouldn't require a degree are beginning to require them.
It makes it easier on HR by preventing a lot of undesirables from applying.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:02 pm to lynxcat
Goddamn you are an idiot. You should totally expect to make back your college tuition your first year of work.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:07 pm to liz18lsu
That was rough, you joking?
My wife makes great money now, but damn with a French Lit degree she didn't make shite in the begining.
You should chase passions in college, not money. Life's too short to leave your heart behind.
My wife makes great money now, but damn with a French Lit degree she didn't make shite in the begining.
You should chase passions in college, not money. Life's too short to leave your heart behind.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:07 pm to liz18lsu
Most college graduates are making between 40-55k in their first year out of school. By your reasoning, no one should pay more than 40-55k for a college degree.
If someone wants to leave the state and get a degree from somewhere else, there is zero wrong with spending more on that degree if they believe the economic and social returns make it worth it to them. You are trying to paint blanket statements that simply do not apply to thousands of students.
If someone wants to leave the state and get a degree from somewhere else, there is zero wrong with spending more on that degree if they believe the economic and social returns make it worth it to them. You are trying to paint blanket statements that simply do not apply to thousands of students.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:08 pm to Bmath
As several people have mentioned, jobs that use to not require a degree are requiring them now simply because they are so many people out there with degrees.
I was speaking with my HR person and she sees it as someone that can start with a goal and finish it.
the money you make now with your degree is worth less and cost more now than I can remember.
Engr. accounting, medical are ones you you need college for.
Lawyers are getting out with a lot of loans and wind up working in companies on doc . control/review etc but not as a lawyer.
I was speaking with my HR person and she sees it as someone that can start with a goal and finish it.
the money you make now with your degree is worth less and cost more now than I can remember.
Engr. accounting, medical are ones you you need college for.
Lawyers are getting out with a lot of loans and wind up working in companies on doc . control/review etc but not as a lawyer.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:09 pm to lynxcat
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Most college graduates are making between 40-55k in their first year out of school.
Wait, what? No they aren't. First year philosophy degree holder, or English or history or...damn, you're just wrong with that stat. I know MEs that are at the bottom of that range you gave. Really.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:10 pm to Gaston
Believe it or not, there's some professionals that don't want a wife and kids. It's their own own prerogative to do so as they please. Just because you wanted to get married and give up on your career is what you wanted to do. No harm no foul.
Your comment on "shows a lack of understanding when it comes to real life" is abstract and skewed. Completely baseless, and only your opinion, coming from someone who "studied hard shite" in school.
Your comment on "shows a lack of understanding when it comes to real life" is abstract and skewed. Completely baseless, and only your opinion, coming from someone who "studied hard shite" in school.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:13 pm to Tiger Roux
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Engr. accounting, medical are ones you you need college for.
Outside of medicine, which usually starts with a basic science degree, the others are more Vo Tec than college should be. It shouldn't be job training.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:14 pm to Gaston
French Lit, seriously
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:17 pm to Breauxsif
I didn't give up my career, I followed my passions in life. I do fracture mechanics at research facilities and absolutely have a badass career, I gave up on that coast because it simply didn't seem worth it to me.
One if my best friends, who makes $750k+, absolutely said those same words...sabotaged so many relationships...I don't know what to tell you, good luck. It's just hard to read. By all means chase your dreams.
One if my best friends, who makes $750k+, absolutely said those same words...sabotaged so many relationships...I don't know what to tell you, good luck. It's just hard to read. By all means chase your dreams.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:21 pm to liz18lsu
She absolutely crushes the business majors and MBAs in her company. Life isn't about following some predetermined path. I know English lit radiologist, religious studies dermatologist...
Reading books in a foreign language and writing 15 page papers, in that language, based on your opinion of the theme and other aspects isn't some bullshite that morons can do.
Reading books in a foreign language and writing 15 page papers, in that language, based on your opinion of the theme and other aspects isn't some bullshite that morons can do.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:23 pm to Gaston
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Reading books in a foreign language and writing 15 page papers based on your opinion of the theme and other aspects isn't some bullshite that morons can do.
Like I did this???
Posted on 7/24/16 at 7:28 pm to Hammertime
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Change plumbers with welders, and you've got it. Also, you need some type of degree to be an operator.
AP classes in high school are harder than most college classes. College has been gradually dumbed down to a 10th or 11th grade level. I know two people from HS that went to LSU, but were in remedial math classes. That's like 5th grade math.
Your freshman and sophomore years are basically high school extended. Nothing new is learned in 95% of programs during that time if you had a good foundation in high school.
I don't know about AP classes in HS being harder than college classes and as for as college being dumbed down, I am not sure if that is accurate. It really depends on what major you are in. If you major in general studies maybe it has, but if you are engineering it seems like the requirements today are more challenging than before.
Isn't college an extension of HS to some degree? For the most part I think the first two years of college is to weed out people. Its not really a bad thing that you have to take classes that you might not take if you had to decide for yourself, its good to have an understanding of different subjects.
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