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re: Russia Unveils New Main Battle Tank, Among Other Things

Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:24 pm to
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Don't believe the hype. Russia's military is in serious trouble.

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Two links to some site called "War is Boring" does not an argument make.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:26 pm to
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David Axe is an American military correspondent who writes on military life and aspects of current conflicts. Axe is a prolific blogger and has published several books. Defense IQ ranked David Axe's website War is Boring as one of the top 10 defense blogs of 2011, describing it as "quirky, cutting and very, very good."[1]
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Tigeralum2008

quote:

Putin is capable of dancing under the Eifel Tower whenever he wants.




Well if France is all he wants...

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30844 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:34 pm to
Probably trying to push all this through and get the invasion started while Obama is in office. amirite?
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Don't believe the hype. Russia's military is in serious trouble.


For every blogger out there writing about the Russian military being nothing more than a cheap copy of the Red Army from 30 years ago, there are an equal number of authorities out there who write that the Russian Army is in far better shape now than it has ever been since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Putin has watched with alarm how Nato has expanded to Russia's borders, how the US and some of its NATO allies bomb and invade countries without first seeking UN approval (Iraq in 2003, Serbia in 1999), and brazenly participates in regime change (See Undersecretary Nuland and the Ukraine crisis of 2013-2014), and as a result has started to invest heavily in Russia's military and has started to punch back (e.g. Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine in 2014-2015).

Clinton and Bush forgot the fundamental reason for NATO, which was to keep the Germans down, the US in, and the Russians out. Expanding NATO to include the Baltic republics along with former Warsaw pact countries did nothing to enhance US National security, it simply expanded the list of countries that we obliged to go to war for in order to defend, without their being able to contribute much of anything to the common defense.



Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51638 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:42 pm to
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That whole throwing wave after wave of conscripts isn't a very good tactic on their part.


I doubt they would take that tactic again. I think we can look to Ukraine and Crimea as to what Russia's current tactics are.

Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:46 pm to
Final thought on Russian air technology

Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29227 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:47 pm to
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Europe & the US better pull their heads out of their asses




Yeah, because the United States is extremely frugal with its military budget and R&D
Posted by Backinthe615
Member since Nov 2011
6871 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 3:55 pm to
Russia has had some muscular hardware designs over the years. Some effective and some like the dude at the gym who outlifts everyone but would stroke out if he ran a mile.


I randomly thought of this meme yesterday and raffed:



Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9457 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 4:45 pm to
What's actually happening in that pic? Is it some type of recovery or transport vehicle? You can see the yellow load binders securing the tank to the deck. I'm curious about why it's tilted so extremely. Maybe it's some sort of testing device... Do the engines run, does the turret turn, etc. at extreme angles.

Can one of you armor experts help me out!?!
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 5:34 pm to
Malodyets Vladimir, davai davai davai eshcho!
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4778 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:27 pm to
apaches will love em.
Posted by Speys and Tays
Member since Dec 2014
340 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:32 pm to
One weakness I see for the tank besides it's complexity is the multiple mission tasks set for it. Ground to Air, Ground to Ground, Anti Armour are a lot of missions to hold down. That with the maintenance involved in keeping a tank serviced are a whole lot for a crew of two to keep up with.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22903 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 6:34 pm to
Russia is the GOAT terrible, shitty country full of assholes.
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:11 pm to
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Russia is the GOAT terrible, shitty country full of assholes.



And you base this little nugget of wisdom on what? Watching the original Red Dawn and perhaps a few James Bond movies from the 1960-80's?
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3975 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:21 pm to
Those vehicle markings remind me of the old GI Joe vector logo.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
Alexandria
Member since Jan 2013
5913 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 11:48 pm to
None of this matters, US Navy and Airforce has more ships and planes than the rest of the world combined. We would bomb and bombard them to hell and then send in our boys. This all played out on Call of Duty anyway and we won going away...
Posted by geauxtigers6492
Admin in Waiting
Member since Jun 2008
3981 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:10 am to
Thank you all for this thread. passed the time at work tonight! Also did some research on my own and learned a few things.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15329 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:26 am to
Good thing we got goose and Mav to keep up relations with these folk.
Posted by HeavyCore
Member since Sep 2012
2552 posts
Posted on 5/6/15 at 3:37 am to
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Europe & the US better pull their heads out of their asses or the nightmare we dreaded in the 80's, a Soviet invasion of central Europe, could be a real threat within the next decade.


France has said recently that anyone attempting to invade will get the nuke dropped on them. They literally don't give a frick about M.A.D. I'm more worried about those poffers trying to deal with if by themselves.
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