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re: Robin Thicke & Pharrell Lose 'Blurred Lines' Lawsuit, Owe Gaye Family $7.3MM
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:49 pm to ForeverLSU02
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:49 pm to ForeverLSU02
Should consult with David Bowie and Vanilla Ice. They should settle this. 
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Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:50 pm to whoisnickdoobs
quote:so using the same instrument makes it a rip off?
so changing the tempo makes it not even close
Think about that for a sec
Beat, tempo, pretty much everything is different but the instrument used in the background
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:51 pm to jeff5891
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so using the same instrument makes it a rip off?
Think about that for a sec
no dumbass playing the same hook makes it a ripoff
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:56 pm to jeff5891
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Beat, tempo, pretty much everything is different but the instrument used in the background
What songs are you listening to? Beat and tempo are pretty damn close.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 12:59 pm to bbap
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i didnt really know who he was either. the first time i saw the voice i asked someone what songs he sang.
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This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:05 pm to whoisnickdoobs
any pics of emily ratajaosksaii yet?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:16 pm to ForeverLSU02
They use the same instruments, have a similar bass line and timing, but otherwise I don't hear it. One is similar to the other, but I think clearly different. Can every old artist now sue every new artist because they are playing a similar genre of music?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:17 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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listened to "Blurred Lines" for the very first time last night after reading of this verdict. The thing that I want to know is how in the hell does their record company not know better? That is just blatant incompetence on their part. They should have just gotten permission. Puff Daddy made an entire career off of stealing other people's music, but he at least asked nicely before stealing it.
This is retarded.
How do you steal when you give the original artist credit/royalties?
Some artist of old minor 'R&B' hits ,especially, or classics made more money when the hip hop artists sampled them. Although some don't like it many change their minds when the royalty checks come & their forgotten song is breathed new life.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:24 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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4. the effect of the use upon the potential market. The purpose of the use was to make money off of a song.
Making money is almost always a purpose in commercial use. The real question is did the release of Blurred Lines have a negative impact upon the sales of Gayle's song.
I can't imagine that it did.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:25 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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I've always wondered how this doesn't happen more often.
These guys probably listen to more music than most of mankind.
You have to be skillful enough to be inspired by & not copy.
Michael Jackson's 'Don't Stop til you get Enough' was directly influenced by the Jazz/Funk Gaye tune.
The difference in talent/skill between Jackson & Pharrel/Thicker is evident in how he navigated the song without coming so close to the original Gaye tune.
Marvin Gaye's dance song(an answer to disco which he did not like) was so unique I don't know why anyone would record something so similar.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:40 pm to sugar71
quote:It's called "sarcasm", genius.
This is retarded.
How do you steal when you give the original artist credit/royalties?
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:41 pm to LasVegasTiger
quote:It's 100% true. I have to go out of my way to hear pop songs.
I find this hard to believe. My 91 year old grandfather has heard the song.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:51 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
SPIN magazine has an interesting write up about this case and what it may mean for music.
I thought it was interesting. Hopefully not linked yet.
'Blurred Lines' Isn't Even the Biggest Marvin Gaye Ripoff This Decade
Guy thinks this case sets a dangerous precedent for music.
I thought it was interesting. Hopefully not linked yet.
'Blurred Lines' Isn't Even the Biggest Marvin Gaye Ripoff This Decade
Guy thinks this case sets a dangerous precedent for music.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:53 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Dude is one of the biggest writers/producers in the music industry. Had a hand in creating most of the top hits the last couple years
so I've been told.....
Posted on 3/11/15 at 1:54 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
quote:
It's 100% true. I have to go out of my way to hear pop songs.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:01 pm to whoisnickdoobs
Thinking Out Loud" is a very nice ballad, one whose seductive groove, sentimental lyric, and full-hearted vocal has taken it all the way to No. 1 on Billboard's Pop Songs chart. It is also an incredibly obvious successor to Marvin Gaye's 1973 superlative slow jam "Let's Get It On" —
My wifes favorite song and I soon as I heard it I said he just ripped off Marvin Gaye's lets get it on. Ed better write a check as it is way worse than blurred lines
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My wifes favorite song and I soon as I heard it I said he just ripped off Marvin Gaye's lets get it on. Ed better write a check as it is way worse than blurred lines
LINK
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:27 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Puff Daddy made an entire career off of stealing other people's music, but he at least asked nicely before stealing it.
There is a lot of confusion regarding the different parts of the music business in this thread.
Since the mid 90's, people have GENERALLY had to have permission to either COVER or SAMPLE or Weird Al another artist's song. Since hip hop has included so much sampling since its inception, they have had to pay the most via song writing credits to the original artist. Once that is established, there is no problem because now everyone with a co-writing credit is making a percentage from the song/album sales.
I prefer the term plagiarized instead of ripped off. After all, there's only so many notes that can be played without being somewhat reminiscent of another persons work.
Someone mentioned other songs that Pharrell had written including - Nelly "Hot in Herre". That entire song is more than just a sample. It's basically the original song - Chuck Brown - Bustin' Loose - with different lyrics. It's all about the music, lyrics really don't matter.
Because I was not familiar with the Blurred Lines writers, I had assumed that the estate of Marvin Gaye had signed off on the use of the original. Having said that, the songs are not identical, but are VERY similar. The song has basically been transposed down in key and then sped up to have a more modern sound.
No matter what, Thicke and Pharrell have heard the Marvin Gaye original and knew they were doing more than merely "borrowing and being subliminally influenced" by the original. They have to pay up and rightly so, as anyone who uses another persons copyright.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:31 pm to ForeverLSU02
This will hurt RT a lot more than PW.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 2:41 pm to ForeverLSU02
These songs do not sound that similar.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 4:44 pm to ForeverLSU02
But that video... 
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