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re: References on a resume or not?

Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15541 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:45 pm to
GPA yes, references no.
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
5776 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:47 pm to
My wife, who is a recruiter, says to only put at the bottom "references available upon request". She would know.
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:58 pm to
I was told by a good friend in HR that you don't even need to put "References upon Request" at the bottom. It should be assumed you have references, and besides a prospective employer would like get you in for an interview before they even begin to think about needing to call references. This said I have brought them with me to an interview and if they ask I can give them to the interviewer.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68275 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 6:59 pm to
Is it ok if I put td.com usernames as references?

Should I tell the posters I am doing this?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51897 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:01 pm to
FWIW, LSU's career services are adamant that you never put references on a resume. They will actually "fail" a resume automatically if they do. They'll allow a "references upon request" statement but only grudgingly. Ideally they say don't put anything about it on a general resume.

Of course it doesn't apply when you do your application specific tailoring for a position that requests it explicitly.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51897 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
Member since Sep 2003
13536 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:04 pm to
Who the f*ck puts a picture on their resume?
Posted by lsut2005
Northshore
Member since Jul 2009
2601 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:04 pm to
I have a separate reference page. They'll most always call them if you make it to the later stages of the interview process. Make sure they're old bosses/managers who will vouche for you as a good employee.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51897 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:05 pm to
Dumbass college kids who have never put together a resume before
Posted by jimlsu1
Ellicott City, Md
Member since Oct 2008
1417 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:08 pm to
No references and do not put References Available Upon Request. That is utterly stupid. The employer knows you will provide references if asked. Believe me, unnecessary BS drives the person reading the resume to throw it in the trash.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97620 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:13 pm to
No to references and no to "references available upon request"

They already know this
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70964 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:16 pm to
Separate page.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:18 pm to
Don't put anything about references.

You think they'll say to themselves "damn, I really want to call this guys previous manager, but he didn't say he had references available. NEXT"
Posted by PKTiger
NOLA
Member since Apr 2013
836 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:19 pm to
Some people look at a reference page. Others don't. I don't think there's a right answer to this one. Just about the employer's preference.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12351 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

it shows you've got nothing to hide


It shows you have friends.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:24 pm to
A particular reference on my resume has gotten me a job fwiw...something to always consider. In my opinion, unless the reference is David Duke or Bernie Madoff, including references will only help you.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:28 pm to
Every employer will ask for references if they want them
Posted by Bayou Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
3658 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:29 pm to
Don't put references and don't put "References Available Upon Request". Of course they are. Do you put "Drug Test Available Upon Request" or "Interviews Available Upon Request"? After looking at resumes over the years that has become a pet peeve along with World Wide Web proficiency and goofy email addresses.

If somebody asks you for references, put together a summary of a few key references including where you worked together, dates, their role, and a brief statement of how you worked together. Don't send this yet.

Talk to each of your references and tell them about the job(s) you are looking at and why they would be a good fit for your career. Tell them you would appreciate if they would serve as a references. Conceivably they will all agree.

Send each of your references an email thanking them for offering to serve as a reference. In the email, mention a couple of the highlights from the time you worked together, not in a bragging way but just to jog their memory and provide a few talking points (e.g. stuff "we worked on together"). Attach your resume to also jog their memory.

Now send the list of references to the company that asked for them.

All of the above assumes your references are trusted associates and you are applying for a mid-career salaried job, not your burger-flipping buddies referring you for a job at Jiffy Lube. Just my two cents.
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 7:40 pm to
Wow, it's been so long since I was job shopping. I used to always list references. I won't be listing them anymore, now that I have to cut my truck nuts, due to the oilfield.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47366 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:00 pm to
When I'm hiring someone, I may glance at the references. If the list is friends or the church pastor rather than former employers, I'm leery. If I'm going to check references, I'm calling the former employers to see if they'll give me anything. Some will. Some won't. Simple question like "would you hire the person again" pretty much tells me all I need to know.

I usually looking more at how long they've worked at other jobs, job hopping and gaps in employment.
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