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re: Parent Problems looking for advice
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:18 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:18 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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What is his reaction when you tell him that he can’t see your daughter because of his actions?
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he tell you that it’s a load of BS
Tells me he we are crazy, most of the time throws verbally abusive things out, calls me a snowflake(which im not), man the list goes on
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:20 pm to Jack Daniel
God could tell this man he is wrong and he would not think see...The most hard headed, stubborn person i have ever met
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:21 pm to shel311
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it would be supervised visits
He would never get unsupervised visits...He couldnt raise me much less me letting him raise her
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:25 pm to SwampBandit
I lived in erwinville my entire life, baw.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:26 pm to SwampBandit
quote:That's good.
He would never get unsupervised visits...He couldnt raise me much less me letting him raise her
Going back to my previous post, you mentioned you gave him rules/consequences, but you don't seem to be following through with them. I think you need to follow through and while he'd obviously be pissed, just tell him you'll do everything you can to assist him with getting help.
If that doesn't work, it really stinks cause it's your Dad, but there's nothing you did wrong. He basically said he hopes your kid is dead, all bets are off at that point IMO, it's over and done if he's not seeking help.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:26 pm to SwampBandit
I'm sorry you are in this situation, but my advice... I agree with Mahootney on this one.
This isn't an issue between your dad and your wife and daughter, you are man enough to know what you need to do to protect them, this is an issue between him and you.
My outlook is different than most here obviously. Out of love I couldn't cut him off. You have the power to influence him and the opportunity to try and help him. It sounds like he doesn't realize how he is, and maybe he just needs his son to sit down and have a real man-to-man, foot-in-the-arse talk with him. Every dad wants their kids to be proud of them, no matter how bad they are. It may take some deep digging to pull on that string but you have the opportunity to do so.
My personal view is if you love your dad nothing is too difficult if you have the opportunity to help him and to fix y'all relationship. You only get one dad and life is too short not to try and help him. Sounds like if you are able to help him you will be changing his life.
Once you fix the issue between you and your dad, then you will know what's in your wife and daughter's best interests.
For the record, no where near what you explained about your dad, but my dad's attitude was similar. Growing up he was superman to us but as I grew up I realized he was treating my mom like trash through mental and emotional abuse. In my mid-twenties I had enough of it and had a serious talk with him and told him about himself. Probably the hardest conversation I've ever had but it made him realize that taking out his unhappiness on my mom wasn't right. Ever since then he has changed and my mom is a lot happier, he's a lot happier, and our relationship is very strong. I'll say a prayer for y'all
This isn't an issue between your dad and your wife and daughter, you are man enough to know what you need to do to protect them, this is an issue between him and you.
My outlook is different than most here obviously. Out of love I couldn't cut him off. You have the power to influence him and the opportunity to try and help him. It sounds like he doesn't realize how he is, and maybe he just needs his son to sit down and have a real man-to-man, foot-in-the-arse talk with him. Every dad wants their kids to be proud of them, no matter how bad they are. It may take some deep digging to pull on that string but you have the opportunity to do so.
My personal view is if you love your dad nothing is too difficult if you have the opportunity to help him and to fix y'all relationship. You only get one dad and life is too short not to try and help him. Sounds like if you are able to help him you will be changing his life.
Once you fix the issue between you and your dad, then you will know what's in your wife and daughter's best interests.
For the record, no where near what you explained about your dad, but my dad's attitude was similar. Growing up he was superman to us but as I grew up I realized he was treating my mom like trash through mental and emotional abuse. In my mid-twenties I had enough of it and had a serious talk with him and told him about himself. Probably the hardest conversation I've ever had but it made him realize that taking out his unhappiness on my mom wasn't right. Ever since then he has changed and my mom is a lot happier, he's a lot happier, and our relationship is very strong. I'll say a prayer for y'all
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:28 pm to SwampBandit
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Tells me he we are crazy, most of the time throws verbally abusive things out, calls me a snowflake(which im not), man the list goes on
Would you say point and case?
The guy obviously takes no responsibility for his actions.
You could try to make strict rules for his visit but he would probably break the rules and blame you for having stupid rules.
I’d cut bait and run just like you are doing.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:31 pm to SwampBandit
There is no good reason to subject yourself or your family to an abusive relationship. Nothing good will come of it and there is still a lot of damage that can be done. I say get out and stay out...protect yourself and your family. Good luck man.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:31 pm to SwampBandit
It sounds like your dad is mentally ill and needs help. I wouldn’t let him around my kids without getting the care he needs.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:32 pm to SwampBandit
People are telling you that you have to protect your wife and child. Listen to them. The easiest way is to cut him out. He could decide your daughter needs to be punished and bruise her up. What then?
He tells you that it is all your wife's fault which means he doesn't like her. This puts her in danger too. Cut him out.
He has spent your whole life telling you who he is. Believe him.
I tell you this after cutting my wife's father out of our lives in 2001. I am the voice of experience. Believe me when I tell you that you will not miss him and your life will improve. You will realize that every other area of your life was suffering because of his bullshite.
Cut him loose. Don't look back.
He tells you that it is all your wife's fault which means he doesn't like her. This puts her in danger too. Cut him out.
He has spent your whole life telling you who he is. Believe him.
I tell you this after cutting my wife's father out of our lives in 2001. I am the voice of experience. Believe me when I tell you that you will not miss him and your life will improve. You will realize that every other area of your life was suffering because of his bullshite.
Cut him loose. Don't look back.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:35 pm to TheBoo
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Sounds like if you are able to help him you will be changing his life.
Thats the thing i have sat down and explained hundreds of times and he just points his fingers at others, i have asked him to go see someone and he wont because he doesnt think anyone is wrong and it would kill him to find out he really is bi-polar, im fricken 26 and have chest pains from dealing with this man... i have watched him beat my mom, beat me for shite like missing a pop fly at the age of 8, no sexual stuff but he has done way worse things.....in all honesty i was 8 years old and had a crack barrel 4-10 loaded in my closet because i couldnt take him hurting my mom anymore but luckily it all ended when it did to that extent...
I appreciate all of yalls input and i know what the right thing is to do, i am very forgiving but you can only do it so many times until your heart cant take it
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:36 pm to SwampBandit
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This is what sucks He has had me to the point where i told my wife im about to take him out just so yall dont have to deal with it but then they wouldnt have me and id be sitting in the pen
Can't imagine that type of scenario, legit straight out of a lifetime movie. As I said though, you all know better than we ever could the situation and what you think is best, just hope the best for you all though.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:38 pm to SwampBandit
As has been said a bunch, you simple move on without him. I' never had this issue with a parent but two sisters who were just impossible.
It can be hard but you just wash your hands of them and move on with your life knowing you removed a cancerous portion. Best thing you'll ever do for yourself and your family. Good luck.
It can be hard but you just wash your hands of them and move on with your life knowing you removed a cancerous portion. Best thing you'll ever do for yourself and your family. Good luck.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:48 pm to SwampBandit
He's using "Emotional Blackmail" to manipulate you. This is an excellent book on the topic with good advice on how to deal with him, "Emotional Blackmail: When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation, and Guilt to Manipulate You."
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:49 pm to Hangit
Hangit just provided you some seriously good advice. You asked for guidance and you really need to read this all and understand the situation you find yourself encompassed within. You dad is addicted to abuse (whether physical or emotional) and its time to step up to the plate for your family. Do you want your daughter growing up even remotely similar to the way you did?
This is how I see it.....a drug addict can't get sober living around the same people that made him an addict. Hell an addict can't even live within the same community of where they once did drugs because its too easy to find a dealer. Its time to move, my friend. Not Run. But time to move on. Finding a new job, new town, new place where you, your wife, and your child can create your own space in this world. I know us Louisiana folks like being "home" but my wife and i moved to Texas for 5 years and it did wonders for our lives, personal growth, and our little family. We've since moved back but we moved backed under our own conditions and we grew leaps and bounds as young people and adults. Its time to shake the globe. Change is needed. You'll thank me for it. Good Luck. Much Love.
This is how I see it.....a drug addict can't get sober living around the same people that made him an addict. Hell an addict can't even live within the same community of where they once did drugs because its too easy to find a dealer. Its time to move, my friend. Not Run. But time to move on. Finding a new job, new town, new place where you, your wife, and your child can create your own space in this world. I know us Louisiana folks like being "home" but my wife and i moved to Texas for 5 years and it did wonders for our lives, personal growth, and our little family. We've since moved back but we moved backed under our own conditions and we grew leaps and bounds as young people and adults. Its time to shake the globe. Change is needed. You'll thank me for it. Good Luck. Much Love.
This post was edited on 3/8/18 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:52 pm to VABuckeye
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quote:You certainly need to forgive him for the past.
No, he doesn't. My brother doesn't understand why I don't have a relationship with my mom and visit her infrequently. He's younger and doesn't remember some of the things she said or did when we were growing up. Some things you don't forgive.
You can forgive in order to move on, but forgiving doesn't mean forgetting or ignoring something. It just sets you free. It takes a lot of negative energy to keep the anger and hate or whatever going. Once you forgive, you release the negative, but you don't have to start hanging out with the person or even keep the person in your life.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 5:00 pm to SwampBandit
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Thats the thing i have sat down and explained hundreds of times and he just points his fingers at others, i have asked him to go see someone and he wont because he doesnt think anyone is wrong and it would kill him to find out he really is bi-polar,
I was in a similar situation, minus the gun, when my dad's drinking got little hold of him for a while, granted I was in college at the time.
Keep working on him. Not sure if you are a religious man but ask God to work on him. Go to church and light a candle for him. I'll stand by you having the strength and courage to continue trying to help him, because family is everything. You need to help him break his chains so that y'all can enjoy your time together on this earth bud. He will be proud of you for doing it even though he doesn't know that yet.
Posted on 3/8/18 at 5:00 pm to TigerAlum1982
Exactly right tigeralum.
I know he is crushed from not seeing her but I can't even get him to apologize
I know he is crushed from not seeing her but I can't even get him to apologize
Posted on 3/8/18 at 5:02 pm to SwampBandit
Swamp,
Two things:
Go get a shingles vaccination. My husband was so verbally abused by his mother that he came down with shingles. Fortunately I knew what it was and we got the antivirals fast enough. He is the youngest son and for a long time thought his older brothers were exaggerating. Then he came to her attention.
Keep a written record somewhere other than your home. Things that happened and the approx. date.
Other posters have also given advice you must follow.
Two things:
Go get a shingles vaccination. My husband was so verbally abused by his mother that he came down with shingles. Fortunately I knew what it was and we got the antivirals fast enough. He is the youngest son and for a long time thought his older brothers were exaggerating. Then he came to her attention.
Keep a written record somewhere other than your home. Things that happened and the approx. date.
Other posters have also given advice you must follow.
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