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re: Oswald acted alone
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:37 pm to Draconian Sanctions
To me the fact that Ruby shoots Oswald is proof positive that there is more to the story than the official version. It's just too big a coincidence. The world just doesn't work like that.
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Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:38 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
It did back then. Ruby did the right thing IMO.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:40 pm to dukke v
There was a lot more cultural acceptance of vigilante justice back then especially in the south I'll give you that.
Posted on 3/31/16 at 11:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Mortal Error
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Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK is a 1992 non-fiction book by Bonar Menninger outlining a theory by sharpshooter, gunsmith and ballistics expert Howard Donahue that a Secret Service agent accidentally fired the shot that actually killed President John F. Kennedy
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:16 am to The Boat
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JFK's head goes forward right when the bullet hits his head indicating a shot from behind and then he falls back and to the left.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:37 am to baybeefeetz
it's damn near impossible that oswald acted alone
Posted on 4/1/16 at 12:55 am to monsterballads
Ugliest shirt ever and that's not up for debate.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 1:13 am to monsterballads
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it's damn near impossible that oswald acted alone
Solid airtight reasoning, I'm convinced.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 4:52 am to EA6B
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Oswald acted alone by EA6B
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it's damn near impossible that oswald acted alone
Solid airtight reasoning, I'm convinced.
As airtight as "Ruby was just a loon" explains his role.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 4:54 am to Hetfield
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So Carlos Marcello had nothing to do with it? Interesting...........
They certainly didn't expect him to return from the jungles of C. America.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
I've never shot that model rifle.But as far as one guy getting 3 shots off and 2 hit.One a head shot.
Several folks here that could do that.
, “This thing is like an onion: The more layers you peel, the more it stinks!”
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 6:00 am
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:15 am to jlc05
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So Carlos Marcello had nothing to do with it? Interesting...........
They certainly didn't expect him to return from the jungles of C. America.
I think Marcello was in on it. But the main person was Trafficante. Marcello would be too much of a suspect considering his past history with the Kennedy's. Oswald may have fired on Keenedy from the sixth floor, but I don't think he was the sole gunman. I don't think the CIA and the Mafia would trust Oswald to carry out that type of hit alone. You would only get one chance. A botched assassination would probably prevent any other public opportunity. I believe there were multiple shooters, and Oswald was the patsy. I think Oswald fired. But there were shooters on the Grassy Knoll, up on the ridge by the fence overlooking Dealey Plaza, and from the storm drain at street level(may explain the throat shot).
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:22 am to Draconian Sanctions
If you want an interesting conspiracy theory case, how about the death of General George S. Patton?
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:24 am to uptownsage
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:36 am to uptownsage
Have you been to the Dealey Plaza? My visit is what made me think it's much more likely that Oswald did in fact act alone. It's a relatively small area. I don't think someone shoots from the direction of the grassy knoll. It's just too close and people would see. Plus there is some questionable movement of Kennedy after he is shot that makes you question if the shot came from behind, but it's not to the point that it conclusively makes you believe the shots were coming from eslewhere. It is certainly plausible they all came from behind. And if you stand by the window Oswald shot from, it's not that crazy of a shot. Much closer than I imagined. Yes he got off 3 shots quickly, but it's not like he was super accurate. He made 1 head shot, one upper back, and one possible miss if I remember right. Not exactly driving tacks. We also stood by the X where he was shot on the road and took it all in. Obviously don't know exactly what haooened, but any theory has much more holes than acting alone.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:48 am to KG6
Basically,a good part of the right half of the top of Kennedy's head blew out in an instant.
It's difficult for me to say the fatal shot didn't come from the Depository.
It's difficult for me to say the fatal shot didn't come from the Depository.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
I'm just here to say that I don't give a flying frick about any of this, and also that no rational person should.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:01 am to tidalmouse
That's my point. I'm not going to say that anything is definitely the right answer. But, after visiting, it seems more likely and possible. I feel like people have heard the conspiracy theories their entire lives and it casts a doubt. It did for me. Seemed highly unlikely he could have done it until I actually went there.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:04 am to foshizzle
then take your arse out of this thread and go back to playing on snapchat
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:18 am to Draconian Sanctions
First off, I don't have confidence that the evidence is conclusive one way or the other.
This is incorrect. I could be a part of an industrial espionage conspiracy at my current job. That would not mean that the people that hired me are complicit.
This assumes that there was not a connection in law enforcement that was holding Oswald until Ruby was in position. Did they interview Oswald postmortem to determine that he was unhappy with his wardrobe or is that what someone else said?
I lack the knowledge to rebut this on facts. However occams razor kicks in for me at this point. Forget angles and trajectories and whatnot. Forget the pristine condition of the bullet (assuming that is fact....that may have been an Oliver Stone embellishment). I simply feel in my gut that it is far more likely there were more shots fired.
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#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved also. In 50 years there has never been any evidence that either has had any connections to the FBI, CIA, mafia, or any other group conspiracy theorists point the finger at.
This is incorrect. I could be a part of an industrial espionage conspiracy at my current job. That would not mean that the people that hired me are complicit.
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#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
This assumes that there was not a connection in law enforcement that was holding Oswald until Ruby was in position. Did they interview Oswald postmortem to determine that he was unhappy with his wardrobe or is that what someone else said?
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#3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Conelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot.
Oswald acted alone.
I lack the knowledge to rebut this on facts. However occams razor kicks in for me at this point. Forget angles and trajectories and whatnot. Forget the pristine condition of the bullet (assuming that is fact....that may have been an Oliver Stone embellishment). I simply feel in my gut that it is far more likely there were more shots fired.
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