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re: Oswald acted alone
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:42 pm to KG6
Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:42 pm to KG6
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It is certainly plausible they all came from behind. And if you stand by the window Oswald shot from, it's not that crazy of a shot. Much closer than I imagined. Yes he got off 3 shots quickly, but it's not like he was super accurate. He made 1 head shot, one upper back, and one possible miss if I remember right. Not exactly driving tacks.
That's a comment by someone that has probably never shot a rifle.
A head shot and a neck shot on a moving target with a bolt action arcane weapon seems pretty miraculous to someone who hunts five months out of the year with superior equipment.
Did anyone ever determine if the scope was "on".
That would have pretty much solved the mystery of a second shooter right there.
There's no way to adjust for a misaligned scope after one shot while simultaneously in the act of shooting.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 3:57 pm
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 3:47 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Did anyone ever determine if the score was "on".
I remember reading that Marines used the same rifle and couldnt hit anything. Marines in his unit also said if they had to pick one person to get shot by it would be Oswald because he was one of the worst shits they ever saw.
He didnt kill Kennedy.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 4:14 pm to Kajungee
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Covering his face with his sport coat on the other side of the table is the only Operation 40 celebrant displaying any regard for tradecraft. Frank Stugis couldn't stretch his sport coat high enough to cover his swept-back “Big Wave in Hawaii” pompadour, though he gets points for trying. A decade later he'll be one of the Watergate burglars, and, perhaps unsurprisingly,he's also strongly suspected of involvement in the JFK assassination.
can't recall exactly when, time flies, but sturgis admitted being part of the team that went to dallas
and don't forget what oswald said, "I'm just a patsy"
of course not many wanna believe the truth of that statement
also, I believe there was a photo outside the book depository that was of oswald watching the pres
there's a million ways to sell a story and stir up controversy over and over
I said my piece...
almost forgot...this site tries to compare jim garrison to orson wells...it's a riot!!!
LINK /
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:03 pm to PygmalionEffect
Shot a rifle many times as a hunter. I shoot a 7 mag which is going to have more recoil than that. Give me 6 seconds and I can possibly put 2 shots in a silhouette target. They were moving at a brisk walking pace at most. Not that fast. I'm just saying it's by no means impossible.
We walked by the x's in the street where the shots hit him and counted the seconds to see what it would have been like real time. Actually felt kinda morbid. But as unlikely as it may be, it certainly wasn't impossible for even an average shooter.
We walked by the x's in the street where the shots hit him and counted the seconds to see what it would have been like real time. Actually felt kinda morbid. But as unlikely as it may be, it certainly wasn't impossible for even an average shooter.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:36 pm to Akit1
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A lot of people died after JFK's death. Seems odd. Oswald, then Ruby, the Ferrie
Don't forget Hale Boggs and the missing plane. He was a critic of the Warren Report.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:40 pm to Akit1
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A lot of people died after JFK's death. Seems odd.
103 to be exact. Someone didnt want the truth to get out.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:44 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I am just hoping I don't get Hadji'd here in America taking my family to dinner, a movie, the mall, etc.
I really don't care about who did or didn't help Oswald.
I really don't care about who did or didn't help Oswald.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:15 pm to PygmalionEffect
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A head shot and a neck shot on a moving target with a bolt action arcane weapon seems pretty miraculous to someone who hunts five months out of the year with superior equipment.
The shot has has been successfully duplicated with a moving target, the same type rifle, and even ammo take from the same manufacturers batch as Oswald's. Saw the video on TV, should be on Youtube but have no time to look for it now.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:32 pm to EA6B
I've posted this in these OT JFK threads before, but here it is again.
I am friends since HS with someone whose father was on Garrison's DA staff. His father participated in the Garrison investigation. After I read Garrison's book, "On The Trail Of The Assassins", I asked him if everything in the book was true. He told me that everything was true and that they were on to something, but after the Shaw trial, with the negative press from the MSM and public opinion, their investigation could not go on.
I am friends since HS with someone whose father was on Garrison's DA staff. His father participated in the Garrison investigation. After I read Garrison's book, "On The Trail Of The Assassins", I asked him if everything in the book was true. He told me that everything was true and that they were on to something, but after the Shaw trial, with the negative press from the MSM and public opinion, their investigation could not go on.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 7:48 pm to ATL-TIGER-732
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Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK is a 1992 non-fiction book by Bonar Menninger outlining a theory by sharpshooter, gunsmith and ballistics expert Howard Donahue that a Secret Service agent accidentally fired the shot that actually killed President John F. Kennedy
I have seen this special and this guy gives more hard forensic evidence for it occurring than all other ideas combined.
Would account for the rushed autopsy and the f-d up way the entire post assassination evidence cover up occurred.What I especially think is a huge sway towards this thought is that the AR-15 had frangible ammo available...which would explain the lack of a third bullet as well as the explosive force that Kennedy's head took from the 3rd shot.
Don't believe it? Shoot a watermelon with a .308 and then shoot it with an AR using frangible ammo. The reults speak for themselves
Everyone should read this and broaden their horizons.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:02 pm to doublecutter
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Don't forget Hale Boggs and the missing plane. He was a critic of the Warren Report.
Do you know who dropped him off at the airport for his ill-fated trip?
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:11 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Do you know who dropped him off at the airport for his ill-fated trip?
Who????
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:17 pm to doublecutter
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Who????
A young congressional aide from Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:19 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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A young congressional aide from Arkansas, William Jefferson Clinton.
Had never heard that before.
Wow. Some NWO stuff
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:20 pm to saintsfan1977
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A lot of people died after JFK's death. Seems odd.
103 to be exact. Someone didnt want the truth to get out.
Elaborate please
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:26 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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Had never heard that before.
Wow. Some NWO stuff
I first saw it in the Onion. They had an Ask A Conspiracy Theorist advice column. But it was also in My Life, so it's accurate.
Arlen Specter cooked up the magic bullet theory.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Vincent Bugliosi put all of this to rest. Reclaiming History is extremely long and boring, but it's the ultimate answer to conspiracy theory.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:51 pm to slinger1317
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I've stood near the sniper's nest in the depository building. It's obvious both shots came from there. The x's on the street line up perfectly with the window.
While I never went into the "Texas School book suppository (shout out to Private Snowball), I have stood on those "X"s on the street and it is absolutely conceivable that a marksman could make those shots.
All things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually true.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:55 pm to LuckySo-n-So
Some more NWO stuff: Nixon and George HW Bush were both in Dallas on 11/22/63.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:58 pm to PygmalionEffect
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Did anyone ever determine if the scope was "on".
FWIW I believe in some broader conspiracy (although the OP makes some good points and it is not a slam dunk) and I also believe he was using the iron sights and scored the back hit between the shoulder blades. Whether or not he fired additional shots, I do not believe he scored the head shot.
That's reasonable for a somewhat experienced shooter at that range. Now the whole, "3 shots in 6 seconds" - I remain wholly unconvinced about that.
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