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Opiates! Opiates everywhere! New CDC statement/guidelines?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:07 am
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:07 am
Just spat part of my smoothie out listening to the news. I am not a moron. I know opiates are over prescribed. I know why. Can the toothpaste be put back in the tube?
Watching a news story this AM and heard 2 statements.
An ER doc on there pipes up that opiates "are not needed for bone fractures and kidney stones." In addition, the reporter later quoted a CDC guideline or rec, "prescribers need to prescribe less (be more vigilant I think) in dispensing to patients after surgery and with end stage cancers"???!!!
What the frick!!!!? If a terminal cancer patient didn't earn a little opium, I don't know who the frick does anymore.
I've chimed in on other of these threads and have straddled the fence somewhat. I think I am on "Team Pill Head" now. This is fricking nuts. I am not a doc or prescriber. I am the nurse who dishes out the RX to folks at discharge.
They of course show the recent Oklahoma doc who was busted. She was basically dishing scrips out to anybody, wrote 1800 in one month I believe, and was prescribing to people she never personally layed hands on. This is of course what needed crack down, but did post op patients and frickign cancer patients?
Seems like a pound of prevention being worth an ounce of cure. I guess Mexican cartels need a new revenue stream since weed is slowly becoming legal.
Crack down on the terminally ill!!?
Rant over. Thought? I'll put myself in timeout.
Watching a news story this AM and heard 2 statements.
An ER doc on there pipes up that opiates "are not needed for bone fractures and kidney stones." In addition, the reporter later quoted a CDC guideline or rec, "prescribers need to prescribe less (be more vigilant I think) in dispensing to patients after surgery and with end stage cancers"???!!!
What the frick!!!!? If a terminal cancer patient didn't earn a little opium, I don't know who the frick does anymore.
I've chimed in on other of these threads and have straddled the fence somewhat. I think I am on "Team Pill Head" now. This is fricking nuts. I am not a doc or prescriber. I am the nurse who dishes out the RX to folks at discharge.
They of course show the recent Oklahoma doc who was busted. She was basically dishing scrips out to anybody, wrote 1800 in one month I believe, and was prescribing to people she never personally layed hands on. This is of course what needed crack down, but did post op patients and frickign cancer patients?
Seems like a pound of prevention being worth an ounce of cure. I guess Mexican cartels need a new revenue stream since weed is slowly becoming legal.
Crack down on the terminally ill!!?
Rant over. Thought? I'll put myself in timeout.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:09 am to LSU alum wannabe
You want to solve this problem? Legalize weed.
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:09 am to LSU alum wannabe
Haven't had your pills yet this morning?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:09 am to LSU alum wannabe
That ER doc has never fractured a bone or passed a kidney stone.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:10 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
"are not needed for bone fractures and kidney stones."
yeah that guy can go ef himself.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:10 am to LSU alum wannabe
I'm sure the government will create a solution to the opiate problem that will make it far worse.
Terminally ill patients in pain should be given whatever opiates they need. "Oh, they'll become an addict." Who cares?
Terminally ill patients in pain should be given whatever opiates they need. "Oh, they'll become an addict." Who cares?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:10 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Crack down on the terminally ill!!?
The problem isn't the terminally ill patient. The problem is the family member who is chosen to care for them at home (often the unemployed family member), who then steals their oxys and sells them for $30.00/per
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:12 am to tom
quote:
Haven't had your pills yet this morning?
Not since MY last kidney stone. Year and a half I guess?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:12 am to LSU alum wannabe
Man, all I can get my doc to give me is tramadol.
That stuff is a shitty high.
I need the real deal.
That stuff is a shitty high.
I need the real deal.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:12 am to LSU alum wannabe
Junkie POS are ruining it for everyone
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:13 am to LSU alum wannabe
This opiate thing is getting so dumb. Once the media gets ahold of a drug scare, mass stupidity always follows. Peole with underlying emotional problems abuse drugs. This is the way it has always been. It doesn't have anything to do with doctors over prescribing. There are always people desperate to blame anyone but the degenerate addicts themselves whenever theres a drug scare like this. Grow up blame the idiot eating pills like tic tacs, not the doctors.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:13 am to Cdawg
Opitates have nothing on the toradol injection for dealing with kidney stone pain.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:14 am to SamuelClemens
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The problem isn't the terminally ill patient. The problem is the family member who is chosen to care for them at home (often the unemployed family member), who then steals their oxys and sells them for $30.00/per
That is apples and assholes though. Monitor that patient and their prescriptions. Piss test the patient. If he/she is negative and needs refills? Piss test the family.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:16 am to Lacour
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Man, all I can get my doc to give me is tramadol.
Offer to suck his dick?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:16 am to Lacour
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tramadol
Synthetic opiate which was non-controlled until people in Florida caused it to become a controlled substance.
Tramadol has serious dangers associated with it. It blocks pain without a high so people take too much of it. High doses of tramadol are shown to cause acute seizures.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:17 am to LSU alum wannabe
Heroin will continue to become better, cheaper, and more accessible the harder they make it to get pain pills. Something will always fill the void in the market.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:17 am to LSU alum wannabe
In my opinion there is nothing worse than the government telling doctors how to practice medicine.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:17 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:
That is apples and a-holes though. Monitor that patient and their prescriptions. Piss test the patient. If he/she is negative and needs refills? Piss test the family.
Pharmacies sell locked time release prescription boxes. Make the person buy one when they get the Rx.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:19 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Grow up blame the idiot eating pills like tic tacs, not the doctors.
Some docs can be blamed. The oklahoma doc for instance. There are so many others. But just make it OK to go after those docs.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 8:19 am to BillCosby
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In my opinion there is nothing worse than the government telling doctors how to practice medicine.
Exactly. This is how we got into the opioid epidemic to start with. In the 80's and 90's the FDA told physicians they were under using opiates for acute pain.
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