re: Opiates! Opiates everywhere! New CDC statement/guidelines?

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I've been on pain pills for the whole of the last 4 years. It took me far longer than most to get physically addicted, 2.5 years, but it happened.

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God bless. You can beat it.

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And pain management clinics are the worst. I have a cousin addicted to opiates and she was able to go to a pain management clinic where she could get a 90-day supply. She almost OD'd from taking a shite ton of them right after she got the prescription.

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They were. They've been all but shutdown here. It was a joke before. It was easily fixed with law enforcement oversight. Also the ability to look into a persons prescription history and doing away with the HIPPA snag of one doc being able to see what another doc gave. If the doc gives even one shite then that gets shut down.

But the crackdown now has guys terrified to prescribe anything. triplicate pads were NEVER seen in the ER. now they are needed but are rarely pulled out. I've already seen a handful of decent people come back who I knew were going to come back because Ultram wasn't gonig to touch it.

If you were impressed enough to give dilaudid IV in the ER setting and then send them home on tramadol? WTF!! Pain from a fracture gets worse in 24-48 hours. Not better.

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The state of Kentucky went after Purdue pharma over how they marketed OxyContin to doctors without revealing to them the highly addictive qualities of the drug. They settled out of court this last year. They also plead guilty to criminal charges. The $600 million settlement was a drop in the bucket to what they made.

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This was wrong on a systemic level. If you as a prescriber did not know that Oxy had addictive potential, you had your head up your arse. Those were the days of hot pharmaceutical reps and catered lunches and drug pens and donuts out the arse. Pressure was placed on docs to prescribe out of politeness. It was really ridiculous.

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The state of Kentucky went after Purdue pharma over how they marketed OxyContin to doctors without revealing to them the highly addictive qualities of the drug. They settled out of court this last year. They also plead guilty to criminal charges. The $600 million settlement was a drop in the bucket to what they made.


This makes no sense. The Federal Government approved the sale of it then sues them for selling it.

What adult walking the face of the earth doesn't know that ALL pain killers are addictive? The Government just wanted that 600 million.

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Everyone knows it now - but there wasn't really anything truly comparable before that wave was unleashed so while they should have known as doctors - most adults didn't realize just quite how addictive it was or that OC = Heroin in a general sense at that time.

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Opiate addiction is typically seen at the same rate in most societies because the same % of people get a euphoria from it. Most people don't understand because it's a major downer and makes them nauseous. But for people like me, it's an upper and does not cause nausea.

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I been through opiate withdrawls myself and I know it sucks. Its especially bad when you cant take a break and have to continue the daily grind of family life. But its nothing compared to what those dying of cancer are going through. I would never support any restriction on pain medication for terminally patients.

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Tramadol has serious dangers associated with it. It blocks pain without a high so people take too much of it.

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Opiates give a high, so it has the potential for abuse, so we control it and artificially limit its availability for pain control, so we create a synthetic version that won't get you high but still offers pain control, but because it doesn't get you high, people can take too much of it... so we control it.

Seems to me the FDA's perfect pain pill is made of broken glass and filled with acid so nobody will ever confuse it with a product meant to alleviate human suffering and so nobody will ever abuse it.