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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:08 am to
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i retracted that statement
Thank you, counselor.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:44 am to
I wish they would address the crime in the fq instead of spouting out this bullshite that's gonna be unenforceable.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120379 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:02 am to
Has a bar ever been successfully sued for secondhand smoke exposure slow?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:05 am to
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9 million people visit New Orleans every year. If you take nationwide averages, 20% of those visitors are smokers. SOOOO that leaves you with potentially 1.8 million people that could get fined or get turned off to the city by this ban.

You realize New Orleans was one of the only major cities to not already have the ban, dont you? So where are these tourist going to go? Monroe?
Posted by LSUzealot
Napoleon and Magazine
Member since Sep 2003
57656 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:07 am to
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Nola is proving that its government is much more concerned with expanding its power over its population


ummm this was proven decades ago brah

and there has been absolutely no evidence that it's close to changing

although it's SLOWLY changing...NOLA is losing too many of their "born and raised" folks...it seems to me a lot of the nola born and raised are the ones who ignore crime and pretend things are perfect.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:19 am to
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You realize New Orleans was one of the only major cities to not already have the ban, dont you? So where are these tourist going to go? Monroe?


Metairie

Zealot you a fool
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:23 am to
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You realize New Orleans was one of the only major cities to not already have the ban, dont you? So where are these tourist going to go? Monroe?



I'm sure quite a few people looking for a party destination choose between Vegas (no smoking ban in bars/casinos) and NOLA. It was already mentioned that a fairly large cigar convention is coming to NOLA this year, and they are likely to stop coming here after the ban.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30378 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:25 am to
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The Louisiana State Police did a study and has said the state/city will lose money. Are they wrong?



In the long term, yes. These bans don't impact business like everyone cries about before they go in place. I've lived in 2 different places where this happened a decade ago. Same story with bar owners bitching. Until they realized all their patrons continued coming anyway.

That is not the point though.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:28 am to
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It was already mentioned that a fairly large cigar convention is coming to NOLA this year, and they are likely to stop coming here after the ban.
And on the flipside, conventions have also said they won't return until there is a ban in place.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:34 am to
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And on the flipside, conventions have also said they won't return until there is a ban in place.

Which ones?
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15352 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:34 am to
Why do you hate freedom so much????
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:37 am to
APHA is one that I know of. ~13,000 attendees. Cantrell mentioned 27 in total.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:41 am to
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APHA is one that I know of

That makes sense.
quote:

Cantrell mentioned 27 in total

Interesting. I wonder why the LSP's study didn't have this included?
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 11:45 am to
American Heart Association is another. 22k people.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:02 pm to
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You realize New Orleans was one of the only major cities to not already have the ban, dont you? So where are these tourist going to go? Monroe?


You realize people come to New Orleans to drink and party and that a lot of those people smoke. New Orleans is not like other major cities.

Los Angeles visitors /= New Orleans visitors
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49519 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:08 pm to
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APHA is one that I know of. ~13,000 attendees. Cantrell mentioned 27 in total.



So they're going to continue coming here even if the ban doesn't include Bourbon St? Why don't they care about the health of those poor people?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30378 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:12 pm to
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You realize people come to New Orleans to drink and party and that a lot of those people smoke. New Orleans is not like other major cities.


If 80% of the population are non-smokers, then wouldn't it stand to reason this would make New Orlea s more attractive? Louisiana (and the South) has a higher % of smokers tha m other parts of the country. Most people in the US these days do prefer to avoid places with smoke, even when they are going to "drink and party".

The economic impact of this is negligible to positive I'd bet, but again, thats not the point.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49519 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:13 pm to
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Most people in the US these days do prefer to avoid places with smoke, even when they are going to "drink and party".


They could have done that before the ban.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15352 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:15 pm to
This thread makes me want to drive to Nola. Post up at a bar and smoke an entire pack.
Posted by LSU8654722
Member since Apr 2014
1495 posts
Posted on 1/23/15 at 12:20 pm to
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It's funny because so many people are screaming that we are behind the rest of America in doing this.


Why do we have to be like the rest of America. If the rest of America was eating dogshit for breakfast, we have to too?

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